Hi everyone

2008-04-30 21:33:18

Hi everyone,have ben catching up on digest emails..
I just got back from Puerto Vallarta. Went there with 1000 people
to minister and give free medical care, in Ixtapa,Yelapa and Puerto
Vallarta.
I was so challenged to eat well, as now that I have had a second
fill its amazing how discplined I am.. I was doing ok before but
now..well..there just is that itty bit more fill that made
me..COMPLIANT.(note I am not complaining!!!)
Im am so happy to report that I was able to walk down the plane
aisle facing forward and my BUTT fit. I was so excited.. of course
my first thought was..do they make the aisles wider now???
I am thinking clearer now, and met a MD on my trip that had a RNY 3
months ago...I was able to share with him the truth regardingthe
band..and he was so cool. We shared lots of life stories and ideas
how to eat, I am sending him some unjury powder to help him.He is
struggling..and may join the OCSB board just for some emotional
support and eating tips.
It amazes me the amout of people that say how good I look and how my
skin looks good...the people seem to think that their friends who
had weight loss surgery (RNY) skin looks pasty etc..and they all say
how they want more info re the band so I am out there explaining it
and letting people feel my port etc all the time.
For those of you not yet banded..I want to encourage you.
To those of my dear friends reading this..thanks for all the help
etc..
Till later
Leann
286/230 (mini goal down 100lbs by bash 186 )
banded 9/18/2003 by Dr Kuri.

Re: Re[4]: [mexicanbandsters] The different types of bands

2008-04-30 12:06:51

Please forgive my ignorance Dan, I didn't realize that the 11cm band had been FDA approved. I knew they were trying...didn't know that it had already passed...in any event, that's great. Thanks for correcting me so that I don't pass along wrong info in the future. Have a nice day!

Kathleen Rolly
Dan Lester <honu@...

The 11cm Inamed Vanguard band has been approved and installed in at
least a hundred american patients by US doctors. I know one clinic in
Seattle area that has done at least fifteen. This is not test, but
actually on the market in US now.
dan

fills in San Francisco Bay Area?

2008-04-30 06:00:09

Hi

Does anyone know if there are any fill doctors in the San Francisco Bay Area? This will be my first fill and I would like to have it with a fluoroscope. My surgeon was Dr. Ortiz in Tijuana. Does anyone know Dr. Ortiz's phone number? Do you think it is possible to fly into TJ for the day?

Thanks

kim

can i have an MRI/banded

2008-04-30 04:45:28

Ok will do. thanks
Debby

Re: Re[2]: [mexicanbandsters] can i have an MRI/banded

2008-04-29 17:35:30

Thanks so much for the information.
Debby
248/224/140
3/23/04 banded

Gas in the stomach

2008-04-29 14:42:55

I had my first fill 10 days ago and since then I have lost
7 pounds. First 3 days I was on liquids. The next 5 days
I had problem with solids. I adjusted my eating and chewing
and I have some level of comfort during the last two days.
But I still have lots of gas moving around my body and my
stomach feels bloated. What am I doing wrong?
Thank you for any advise.

Re[4]: [mexicanbandsters] The different types of bands

2008-04-29 03:34:11

The 11cm Inamed Vanguard band has been approved and installed in at
least a hundred american patients by US doctors. I know one clinic in
Seattle area that has done at least fifteen. This is not test, but
actually on the market in US now.
dan
Monday, May 3, 2004, 7:09:03 PM, you wrote:
KA
KA
KA
KA
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Re: Just Banded

2008-04-29 01:53:02

Don't worry about losing right now. You are in the healing phase.
After you're healed and you get your first fill, then it will be
diferent. So, yes, that's normal!

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Just Banded

2008-04-28 23:48:24

It is normal to have minimal restriction until you get a good fill.
You're not likely to feel full until then. Just do the best you can.
Anything you lose in the first six weeks is gravy, as you're healing.
The main thing to avoid during this time is anything loaded with
liquid calories, like beer, milkshakes, etc, etc.
dan
Monday, May 3, 2004, 4:47:58 PM, you wrote:
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Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

RE: [mexicanbandsters] 2 Questions: Monterrey &amp; No Local Fills

2008-04-28 17:55:37

Does anyone who had the
surgery in Monterrey have a tip for the easiest way to get there
from San Antonio?

When I was scheduling my trip from Washington I wanted to go to San Antonio to see my Mom and found direct flights from San Antonio to Monterrey. Plans later changed and I ended up with a terrible flight. Check out Orbitz.com , this should help.

As for the fill doctor, check with your local hospital Radiologist. If they don't do it maybe they know of another hospital close that does. I understand they are all anxious to learn and yours may have a contact. My Weight Loss Clinic could not find my port after being banded by Dr. Rumbaut so I had to see the Radiologist first. Now they have it located and no problem.

Beth H

2 Questions: Monterrey &amp; No Local Fills

2008-04-28 07:05:09

This group is a great resource! I am still in the decision process
as to which Mexican doc to use, and am leaning toward Rumbaut. I
live in eastern Canada, and it looks like my lowest cost option for
Monterrey is to fly into San Antonio. Does anyone who had the
surgery in Monterrey have a tip for the easiest way to get there
from San Antonio?
Also, I don't have access to a local fill dr. I know it would be
better to have one, but unfortunately there just isn't anyone in my
area. Now that I have made up my mind to get the surgery, and to do
it in Mexico, I don't want this obstacle to stop me. For those of
you without a local doctor, do you worry about complications and not
having anyone with band knowledge?
Thanks in advance for your help!

Re: 2 Questions: Monterrey &amp; No Local Fills

2008-04-28 05:16:18

I think that Dr. Rumbaut fee's cover one year of fills. You might
want to double check. I was banded by Dr. Rumbaut on April 20th! I
live in Washington and flew into Houston and then Monterrey. I have
to travel 3 hours for my fills. Ask Dr. Rumbaut's office if they
can suggest someone. Good Luck! I am happy for you!
Tina

Just Banded

2008-04-28 00:09:20

HI,
My husband,daughter and I got banded in TJ 2 weeks
ago tomorrow. I'v lost 23 pounds but my husband has
only lost 2 pounds. It seems like we can all eat more
than the 2oz that is supposed to fill us up without
feeling full. Is that normal?

Re: can i have an MRI/banded

2008-04-27 13:37:26

Debby, I was told to make sure I let the radiologist know that I had
the LapBand. Ardie/Fl.

Re: fill too tight - Stefanie

2008-04-27 06:09:28

Hi Stephanie,
Your thoughts are working in the right direction. Size of bites for
me is when I put my fork in the meat, I cut between the tines of the
fork. (I cut off a narrow strip of meat first.) The bites are
extremely small and I still chew, chew and chew or if the meat tends
to be tough, you can put a small amount of sauce on it of some
type. Eating too fast - I've been banded about 15 months and that
is my biggest problem. Eating too fast is a huge problem as we need
to take it so slowly by putting down our fork or spoon on the plate
between bites. It shouldn't take more then 20 minutes to eat. If
you go longer then that, stop! Also, if you eat too many liquid
calories you generally eat more then you should. Drink a glass of
water about 10/15 minutes before eating, don't drink with your meal
and then wait any where from 1/2 hour to an hour after eating before
drinking any liquids. So.....
Try eating slower, eat very small bites and once you feel the
pressure in your chest or hairball in your throat, stop eating.
Your band is in charge! Once you get things straight in your mind,
you won't be frustrated - unless you get overly anxious about not
losing enough weight right away. Give your body time to adjust.
Can you drink your water, etc, with no problem? Can you eat most of
your meals without barfing? If these are going okay for you, your
fill should be fine. It just takes time to adjust to all of it.
Another hint, when first learning to eat like a bandster, try using
a baby spoon and baby fork and use a saucer to put your food on not
the regular size plate. Don't laugh, it works! I only wish I could
get up enough nerve to take my spoon to a restaurant! <G
Don't worry! Stress does a number on us with eating. It boils down
that if you can drink water and keep it down, and you can eat some
meals and keep them down, your fill is probably working just fine.
Good luck and enjoy this wonderful journey!
Ardie/Fl.
Dr. Sanchez
// fine. But tried split pea for dinner last night and that didn't
work. I don't want to keep pbing and hurt my band but I'm
frustrated. (I am not starving).
advise would be great.//

Re: Re[2]: [mexicanbandsters] The different types of bands

2008-04-26 22:24:37

I just saw Dr. Vitello last night for my 4th fill. Even though he is strictly a gastric by-pass surgeon, he feels there is a definite need for more fill docs who aren't afraid to take care of patients banded in Mexico and objects to doctors ripping people off by charging outrageous fill prices. He is pretty good at it now and hit my port last night on the first try...(I keep it marked) as we have been doing fluro every other fill. He actually started by giving a fill to a friend who was banded in Mexico and couldn't find a fill doc in Chicago area. Yes, he does fill the 11cm band, however, I am pretty sure that it is not approved by FDA yet. The Inamed 9.75 and the 10.cm bands are both approved and from what I've read, the 11.0 is supposed to be approved in the nearby future.
Dan Lester <honu@...

As to US approval, depends on WHOSE 11cm band. The Inamed one, yes.
Others, no.
But there are many docs who will fill any band, or almost any band.
dan

Re[2]: [mexicanbandsters] The different types of bands

2008-04-26 18:53:48

As to US approval, depends on WHOSE 11cm band. The Inamed one, yes.
Others, no.
But there are many docs who will fill any band, or almost any band.
dan
Monday, May 3, 2004, 1:48:55 PM, you wrote:
cac
cac
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Re[2]: [mexicanbandsters] can i have an MRI/banded

2008-04-26 16:43:45

Yes to both.
dan
Monday, May 3, 2004, 1:45:03 PM, you wrote:
cac
cac
cac
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Re: [mexicanbandsters] OOPS!

2008-04-26 11:32:43

Everyone of us have or will slip and swallow and not think. It will be ok. if you do lthis after a fill it will come back up. Debby You have not hurt the band.

BANDSTER GROUP FOR Mums and Mums to be.

2008-04-26 02:02:57

Are you a "Mommy", or mommy-to-be, that has had the Lapband (or plans to have it!) weight loss procedure? Trying to figure out how to balance YOUR needs... the needs of your family... and the needs of your lapband?? Want some support from fellow working, WAHM &/or SAHM banded mommies? If so, this is the place for you! This is a group for non-judgmental and unconditional support of lapband "issues"... support of kidlet "issues"... and support for personal issues as we adjust to our new lifestyle & look. Primary focus will be for AGB (adjustable gastric band) but any WLS patients are welcome.
To provide a "safe" forum & protect members from spammers, a questionnaire will be required to be filled out prior to your group membership being approved.
So if you are looking for a community to find some Mommy e-friends... have some fun... and get some feedback on how to deal with challenges of McDonald's Playplace outings, or converting your family to healthier eating habits, or fitting in exercise between "Mommy Taxi" trips -- you've come to the right spot on the web!

Re: [mexicanbandsters] can i have an MRI/banded

2008-04-26 00:18:15

Does anyone know if its ok to have an MRI with the band? It ahs titanium in it? I am waiting for my Dr to tell me too.\Thanks Debby

fill too tight

2008-04-25 18:20:22

I had my first fill on Tuesday 4/27, 3cc. I am having a hard time
eating. Yogurt is fine. But I tried crab meat and chicken and it
didn't stay down.(at separate times) I had lentil soup and that was
fine. But tried split pea for dinner last night and that didn't work.
I don't want to keep pbing and hurt my band but I'm frustrated. (I am
not starving).
I don't know if I eat too fast, too big of bites or too tight..
What size should bites be? How long does it take to eat? Any advise
would be great.
Thanks
Stefanie
3/18/04
205/185/?

Re: Early decisions in this journey to wellness - long post

2008-04-25 14:36:43

Hey Carol,
Thanks so much for your thoughtful post. I love it when we hear from
you folks in the medical field.
Best of luck tomorrow on your banding--please let us know how you are
doing!
Kim in Ohio
4/14/04, Dr. Jose Rodriguez

Re: OOPS!

2008-04-25 07:45:57

Hey Tina,
I'm pretty new so really don't know the answer to your question but I
just wanted to say I know how easily this could happen. I've stopped
myself with my mouth open several times. Our old brains just won't
click into new gear yet will they?
Common sense tells me that one bite wouldn't hurt but my sense may be
faulty--let's have some experienced folk chime in here!
Good luck!
Kim in Ohio
4/14/04, Dr. Jose Rodriguez

OOPS!

2008-04-24 21:28:23

I was just banded on April 20th. I am getting ready to start my soft
food phase and while cooking dinner for the children I was not
thinking and I ate a bite of dinner without thinking and it bothered
me going down. I could actually feel a little constriction and I
think that I still feel it. It was a little uncomfortable and I am
scared to death that I may have hurt my stitches that are holding
the band in place. Would one bite that is decent sized (not chewed
well) cause a stretched pouch even though I have never had a fill
yet? Could that bite have pulled a stitch or two out or caused
slippage?
Tina

Re: Interested in setting up a San Diego Support Group???

2008-04-24 15:03:26

Hi JoAnn,
We have a San Diego group that meets each month and we welcome you

Interested in setting up a San Diego Support Group???

2008-04-24 12:30:19

I got banded on April 22 by Dr. Ortiz and am doing great. I live in the
North County of San Diego and am interested in finding out if there are any
other bandsters in the area that would be interested in setting up a support
group. If so, send me an e-mail me.
JoAnn

Re: Digest Number 787

2008-04-23 20:56:36

Barb, are they in fact giving you problems or haven't you tried
taking them yet? I cut/broke mine in half for the first month after
banding then tried swallowing one and all went well. At first I was
afraid to even try taking them but I was on meds I "had" to take. I
called my doctor and he told me what to do. Some have even tried
mashing them up and put them in food but I understand some meds
should not be done in that way. You might want to check with your
doctor. Hope it goes well!
Ardie/Fl.

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Digest Number 787

2008-04-23 19:12:36

Can someone please tell me how to take daily meds after being banded? Some
of
my pills are huge!
Barb
Dr. Ortiz 6/04

Re: Fill Doctor in Florida

2008-04-23 14:55:09

Hi Sylvia,
I'm not sure how much she charges for fills. I've never gone to her
but they say she is awesome.
Ardie/Fl.

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Fill Doctor in Florida

2008-04-23 08:18:35

Thanks I am adding her info to the database. How much is Dr Jesse charging for fills?

Thanks!

Sylvia

Moderator

From: ardierose2003

Database/Dr Charles Morton Nashville

2008-04-23 05:03:01

Also there are now two entries in the database for Dr Charles Morton in Nashville, one says $300-$350 for fills and the other says $150 (big difference!) Does anyone know which is the most up to date info?

Sylvia

Re: Do I need a passport to cross the boarder?

2008-04-22 22:48:53

Nanc,
nope, it is not required, but if you have one, take it. The problem
with the border is no going South, it is coming back to the U.S.,
That's where you will be asked for ID.
I just showed my DL. But you never know, and the more info and ID you
have the better...
Scott
Kuri 4-22-04

Do I need a passport to cross the boarder?

2008-04-22 19:29:17

Do I need a passport to cross the boarder or just my birth certificate and drivers licenses?

Set to be banded on 5-20-04.

Nanc

Fill Doctor in Florida

2008-04-22 09:23:06

For those in Florida who are looking for a fill doctor by those
Banded in Mexico, you could try the following:
Dr. Tiffany Jesse
http://www.shedthepounds.com/
2039 Indian Rocks Road Largo, Florida 33774 (727)584-7666
I understand she will not do fills without flouroscope and barium
swallow.
Good luck!

Re: Time for first fill

2008-04-22 00:02:48

I waited 4-6 weeks, but some people have enough restriction that
they don't need a fill for much longer than that. I've even read
about people who waited a year for their first fill.

Crossing the Border to TJ

2008-04-21 16:39:08

I could have sworn that there was a document in Files or Database
that referenced all the different ways to get across the border, but
for the life of me, I can't find it. I also searched the archives
with no luck--so sorry if this is repetitive to some :)
Here's the thing: I am scheduled to be banded by Dr. Ortiz on 5/14.
Because of scheduling issues, I am arriving on 5/12, and my sister is
arriving on 5/13. We are both departing on 5/17. I need to find a
way for my sister to get from San Diego Airport to the hotel in TJ on
5/13. My pickup shuttle and our departure shuttle are included in my
surgery package.
There is an option to order a shuttle through Dr. Ortiz, but it costs
$55.00 for one way. That seems pretty steep to me. I would think I
could find something a little cheaper...but maybe I'm wrong and that
is a good price. (If so, someone let me know, okay?)
How much would it cost to take a taxi from the San Diego Airport to
the Hotel Lucerna? How long does it take? (I believe she arrive at
10:45AM.)
Are there any other options besides taxis and Dr. Ortiz's shuttle?
Any related thoughts or ideas?
TIA!
Marcie (who is getting so excited, she can barely contain herself!)
5/14/04
Dr. Ortiz
280/155

Re: Fill Doc in New Orleans

2008-04-21 15:01:49

You can also try Dr. Joseph Uddo at East Jefferson in Metairie. He
doesn't have access to fluoro for fills but has told me he'd do fills
for Mexican band patients. (504) 454-4441
Laura

Re: For Oregonians--X-Post from Dr. Ortiz/ Oregon Bandsters

2008-04-21 14:28:02

Hello,
Too bad I live in the Eugene area, but hopefully we can still meet
and maybe get together sometime. I am on my way to Dr. Lopez next
weekend for my band and am mega excited. We'll have to plan our own
bash sometime. There is another lady in Portland named Anita that got
hers done a month ago and is doing great. She might be interested in
working out. I'll have to give her a call and ask. Best wishes--- In

Re: Valleys Support Group Meeting

2008-04-21 04:34:03

Hi Carolyn,
I won't be able to attend tomorrow due to my work schedule. Perhaps
next month it'll work for me.
Things are going GREAT for me. Thinking about my first fill in a few
weeks....
Big Steve

Early decisions in this journey to wellness - long post

2008-04-20 22:25:42

I have seen some questions recently about choosing between gastric
by-pass and lap band surgery. I'd like to share some of my thinking
in hopes that it will help others who are making some of these early
decisions.
I have been a registered nurse for 24 years and a nurse practitioner
for 14 years. This means that I have had special education in my
field which allows me to do exams, diagnose, treat, write
prescriptions and do minor surgical procedures. I am 5' 2" and
weigh 358 lbs. If education could cure this disease, I would have
been cured a long time ago. We (meaning the medical community) do
not know all of the factors that cause this disease but we're pretty
sure that it encompasses genetic, psychological, environmental and
physical factors.
I had investigated bariatric surgery for a number of years, and for
a long time thought that gastric by-pass surgery was the "gold
standard" for treatment. I thought this because I actually read
medical journal articles about rates of success and because my
surgeon at the time, whom I trusted, told me this. I thought that
it was necessary to remove some of the small intestine so that I
wouldn't absorb as many nutrients, and therefore calories. This, I
thought, would defeat some of my genetic heritage that allowed my
immigrant grandparents to survive the impoverished conditions that
caused the death of some of their siblings from malnutrition.
I kept thinking, however, that I didn't want to take that drastic of
a step and, instead, tried one more food program, and one more
exercise program, and....you get the idea. Much to my chagrin, when
I finally accepted defeat and opted for the bypass surgery, my
insurance had a clause against ANY treatment, including surgical,
for morbid obesity. This plunged me into hopelessness as I could not
afford the $30,000 to $40,000 for this surgery.
Then one of my patients came in for an exam and told me about her
success with adjustable gastric banding. It was something I had
eliminated at the start of my investigations, because my American
journal articles did not give it high marks for success, but now I
gave it another look. I found these groups and a WORLD of
information. Literally.
Sometimes, and I have to certainly put myself into this group, we in
American medicine feel that we have a superior claim on procedures,
treatments and recorded data regarding medicine. Well, the more I
studied and the more I listened to more experienced bandsters, the
more hopeful I became and I now look upon my inability to obtain
gastric bypass surgery as a blessing in disguise.
I realized that countries where the band had a longer history of use
actually had a better success rate than American medicine did. As a
medical professional, I appreciate the fact that the band does not
require a totally irreversible rearrangement of my stomach and
intestines. I do not have to worry about a lack of vitamins and
essential nutrients causing me to have other problems in the future.
That said, I encourage anyone thinking about getting treatment for
this disease to persue information vigorously. Investigate; ask
questions; use the internet to look up data on your own. Also, seek
out people in your community who have had either procedure. Find
out what their experiences have been. Most hospitals today have
some surgical programs for treatment of obesity. Find out where
those who have had surgery meet, and connect with them. They will
be a good source of information for you, and a good support network
for you later on down the road.
I hope this long post has been of some help to those who are
beginning their investigations into surgical remedies.

Re: sleeping on my stomach

2008-04-20 11:09:43

Yes, you will able to sleep in any position. And the port soreness
will diminish. Congrats on your weight loss & keep up the good work!
Diane
Dr. Lopez Corvala
1.31.02
-96 lbs. BMI 22

Valleys Support Group Meeting

2008-04-20 10:26:58

Hey all you Bandsters, Newbies, Prebands and significant others:

You are invited to a support group meeting for anyone living in the San Fernando Valley, Simi Valley, Santa Clarita, Thousand Oaks, Camarillo, and surrounding areas (or you can come no matter where you live.)

When: Sunday, May 2

When: 1:00-4:00

Where: Carolyn's House

26526 Whispering Leaves Dr.

Santa Clarita, CA 91321

Bring: Band friendly pot luck dish

If you need directions, please email me privately and reply to confirm your attendance. Looking forward to seeing you!!!

MsBhaaven@...

Carolyn

Re: [mexicanbandsters] sleeping on my stomach

2008-04-19 22:34:46

It was about my two week marker before I was able to
sleep on my stomach. Eventually you WILL get to that
point. Hell...Now I cant even feel my port! It's been
a little over 2 months. Some of my clothes still
bother my port area...I am not even attempting to wear
smaller clothes..but my old clothes are getting baggy.
:)

sleeping on my stomach

2008-04-19 20:53:02

Hi, I just had my surgery on March 26th with Dr. Lopez. He was
great! I have lost 17 pounds so far and am eager to keep on
losing. I noticed that it is very uncomfortable to sleep on my
stomach...will I ever be able to sleep on my stomach again? Also
even though I have lost weight, I have not been able to wear smaller
clothing due to soreness around my port. Does this eventually
subside? Thanks for any input:)

Suggestion for Fill Doctors - Look at DATABASE

2008-04-19 12:56:57

Hi,
Just a suggestion for everyone.
If we all look at the database for the Fill Doctors data first, we
can save a lot of time vs asking the group and then waiting for a
reply.
Also, if you know of a fill doc in your area that is not listed,
please add that doctor/ radiologist to the Database. We are all
interested in this vital information.
Scott

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Fill Doc in New Orleans

2008-04-19 02:58:20

You can get fills and aftercare from Dr. Tina Wells and Dr. Elizabeth Curtis
they were trained to do the fills in Monterrey, Mexico and have been helping
many patients in this area. You can reach them by calling their office at
225-673-8983.
They do all the fills under x-ray and I beleive the charge is 250.00 for
everything. They are experienced and are willing to handle patients banded
out side the U.S.

Fill Doc in New Orleans

2008-04-18 21:56:23

I am having the worst time trying to find a fill doctor where I'm
at...I was told from Dr. Ortiz that he proctored a surgeon here in
the New Orleans area that would do fills, but every surgeon I have
called here will not take on patients unless they have done the
surgery. I have tried calling every contact I have for Doc Ortiz to
see if i can get the name of the surgeon he proctored but NO LUCK!! I
am getting frustrated as I need a fill BADLY!!!!!
help!
starlynn

Re: The different types of bands

2008-04-18 21:38:35

Erica,
Let me just say that you should do your own research and make up your
own mind based on all the information you can gather, AND your
doctors advice.
That said; I know you came here for help with the research part, so
here is my opinion and view on the answers to your questions.
Q. -I was wondering if there is a site somewhere which goes over the
A. - No, I don't believe there is one site to read up on all three.
But there are sites for each one. Just go to Google and do a search.
Personally, I looked for the Midband and found very little real info.
I looked because a guy locally went to Mexico City expecting to have
a Inamed LapBand installed and came home to find he had a Midband.
Not a good situation and it has caused him immeasurable stress and
worry. Not to mention all the extra money he has spent trying to get
a fill in the U.S. He is doing better now, and has just gotten a
fill. But the Mexico City Doc would not even answer his calls after
he got home. Not all Mexican doctors are like that one, but it lets
you know that you have to choose wisely. Actually, I should say MOST
Mexican Surgeons are not like that one. You just need to be aware of
what can happen.
Q. - I plan to have the procedure done in Mexico although I'm not sure
A. - They do all three in Mexico. The Inamed Band is better for any
U.S. patient simply because that is the only one which has been
approved by the F.D.A. Also it is made by a U.S. company and will
possibly be "filled" by a U.S. doctor. My research has shown me that
the U.S. doctors are more comfortable when you ask about fills, if
you let them know up front that you have an Inamed LapBand. They are
very very wary of any other kind of band.
Q. - I am 29, 5'9" and weigh 330lbs. Do any of you know if a certain
A. - No, you are not looking at this in the right way. All Bands, no
matter where they are made, or what size they are, simply restrict
your food intake. You can get around any band by not eating right. No
band is designed for a certain number of pounds of weight loss. What
the band will do is help you eat less. You have to eat differently,
and work with the band. Your body will then decide on how much weight
loss you will end up with, based on the amount of food you are eating
and how much exercise you provide. To me, it is like a fuel
regulator. Before, I was providing way too much fuel to my body. Now
the band (with my help) regulates it, and my body will run more
efficiently.
My personal view is that you should strive to have an Inamed LapBand
installed during your procedure. But that is a personal choice. What
you cannot choose is the size of the band. The surgeon determines
that at the time of the procedure. Don't let anyone tell you that
different sized bands work differently. They make different sizes to
accommodate different anatomies. Everyone is different, and the
doctor cannot look at your face and say what size band you should
have. I personally am 6'3" tall and was 427lbs at surgery. I have a
9.75mm Inamed LapBand, which I believe is the smallest one. So,
exterior size has nothing at all to do with the size of the band.
Whatever band you get, will be a good thing for you and your future.
I think the most important decision; beyond the one you have
apparently already made (to actually get a band) is the surgeon you
choose. Focus on that research and actually speak with the doctors
you are most interested in. Send them each a letter in e-mail
explaining your set of circumstances, height, weight, co-morbidities,
previous weight loss attempts, previous internal surgeries, how you
eat, etc etc... When you can talk (on the phone and not through
someone else) with the Doctor's about your particular set of
circumstances and learn from him what he thinks you should expect
from this procedure. You will get a better view on the whole process
and gain a comfort level with whatever doctor answers your questions
in a way that makes you feel comfortable.

For Oregonians--X-Post from Dr. Ortiz/ Oregon Bandsters

2008-04-18 13:57:15

Hello Oregonians (and others!)
I am looking for an exercise buddy to help me stay motivated in
increasing my activity level post-surgery. I am being banded on
5/14/04 but would love to begin exercising regularly as soon as
possible after my surgery (I return on the 17th).
At this stage in my weight loss and the recovery of my health, I am
interested in REGULAR, but moderate impact exercise. I'd like to
begin exercizing 5 days/ week, Mon-Fri. What I would love is to set
up a regular schedule with someone so that I have to keep committed
to these changes in my activity level (this is by far my biggest
obstacle!!!)
Initially, I am interested in walking, swimming, and water aerobics
(the local pool is relatively inexpensive). Once I have proven that I
am committed to exercising, I would be willing to spend money on a
gym or on Curves or something (say, after 2 months). Eventually as I
regain my health and get into shape, I would like to take a dance
class, or Yoga, or fencing, or Tae Bo, or kickboxing, or something
more strenuous.
I live in SW Portland (very close to Beaverton) and would love to
meet someone local who would like to workout regularly. I'd also be
interested in meeting other not so local people for less regular
workouts (say once a week or so.)
If you are interested in having an exercise buddy beginning the week
of 5/24 (as long as I have recuperated by then ) then email me!
Hope someone out there is interested!
Marcie
5/14/04
Dr. Ortiz
280/155

Re: [mexicanbandsters] The different types of bands

2008-04-18 08:07:52

Hello Erica,

I was Banded in Monterrey Mexico by Dr. Sanchez. I have the AMI 11cm band. The largest band. I have been banded a little over 6 months now and have lost 72 lbs. Dr. Sanchez now only uses Inamed Bands on American patients so it's easier to get fills but at the time I got banded he would use whatever band he thought would work best on the patient. It really all depends on the persons insides as to which band will work best. However, Inamed also has the 11cm band now. I don't think it is approved in America as of yet but from what I have read it will be approved shortly. As far as a band that works for someone needing to lose over 100 lbs. I need to lose a total of 250 and I have the largest band. Hope this helps.

Don

10/20/03

451/379/200

-72

Dr. Sanchez
invictus_74 <invictus74@...

Hi there! My name is Erica and I'm still in the research process pre-
op.
I was wondering if there is a site somewhere which goes over the
differences between the Inamed band, the midband, and the Swedish
band. I've read that the bands done in Mexico are larger but it
sounds like that might not promote fast weight loss?
I plan to have the procedure done in Mexico although I'm not sure
whether Tijuana or Monterrey would be better. Are their particular
types of bands that are only implanted in Mexico? Is one band better
than another for any reason?
I am 29, 5'9" and weigh 330lbs. Do any of you know if a certain band
is better for 100#+ weight loss?
Any information you could provide on how to find the differences
between the bands would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your help!
-Erica

take care y'all

2008-04-18 00:24:12

I've decided to do an RNY, I feel like I really need the biofeedback.
Thanks all for your info and sharing, particularly Dan, who took the time to
give me
some really valuable insights.
Thanks, ya big losers! ; )

The different types of bands

2008-04-18 00:02:09

Hi there! My name is Erica and I'm still in the research process pre-
op.
I was wondering if there is a site somewhere which goes over the
differences between the Inamed band, the midband, and the Swedish
band. I've read that the bands done in Mexico are larger but it
sounds like that might not promote fast weight loss?
I plan to have the procedure done in Mexico although I'm not sure
whether Tijuana or Monterrey would be better. Are their particular
types of bands that are only implanted in Mexico? Is one band better
than another for any reason?
I am 29, 5'9" and weigh 330lbs. Do any of you know if a certain band
is better for 100#+ weight loss?
Any information you could provide on how to find the differences
between the bands would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your help!
-Erica

Re[2]: [mexicanbandsters] meds

2008-04-17 10:58:09

Talk to your doctor who prescribes them. They may be available in
smaller sizes (take two small instead of one large, for example).
Some meds can be safely broken or crushed, some not. Same with
capsules and their contents. Some may also be available in chewable
or liquid forms.
I'd also talk to the pharmacist, as docs may not always know all the
different ways a certain med is available.
Also, some will just dissolve fine in the pouch without getting stuck.
dan
Wednesday, April 28, 2004, 2:00:39 PM, you wrote:
Dac
Dac
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Florida Bash

2008-04-17 07:49:09

Time is running out and so are the rooms. By the numbers that we
have, we are projecting that the room block will disappear as soon as
May 10. If you haven't already registered or booked your room for
the Florida Bandster Bash 2004 that is being held at The Hard Rock
Hotel and Casino in Tampa, Florida, please do so at
www.floridabandsterbash.com and call 1-800-937-0010 and ask for the
Bash rate. When the room block runs out the price will go up
considerably. So don't wait. Make your reservation and join in on
the fun!!!
Sharon

Re: [mexicanbandsters] meds

2008-04-16 21:56:28

Can someone please tell me how to take daily meds after being banded? Some of my pills are huge!

Barb

Dr. Ortiz 6/04

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Help with fills

2008-04-16 18:54:24

I think Dr Vetteo does this in Chicago
Debby
3/23/04
248/232/140
Dr J. Rodriguez

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Time for first fill

2008-04-16 13:08:05

I had my first fill at 9 weeks cause I had stopped losing for a couple weeks. Of course the healing time isn't about losing but since I was I waited.

Don

10/20/03

-72
pattiecaroline <pattiecaroline@...

How did everyone determine that it was time for their first fill
after surgery? Dr Kuri said 4-6 weeks- but what did you use as your
criteria to determine?
Thanks for the information!
pattie

Time for first fill

2008-04-16 07:54:32

How did everyone determine that it was time for their first fill
after surgery? Dr Kuri said 4-6 weeks- but what did you use as your
criteria to determine?
Thanks for the information!
pattie

Re: Help with fills

2008-04-16 04:51:37

Connie,
You can get the contact info for Dr. Sanchez at Ready4AChange.com,
under contacts.
Jackie

Re[2]: [mexicanbandsters] Phoning Home

2008-04-15 16:26:25

If you want to use a calling card, use one you buy in Mexico for a few
dollars. Also, if you take a cell, make sure your cell will work
there. Call customer support at your cell company. For some cell
systems, such as TMobile, they'll work there, but you have to "turn on
international service" first, which takes a call to customer support.
For TMobile and most others there is no charge for this, just that it
needs turned on.
Do NOT assume that your phone will work there without checking. DO
assume that it will cost you extra, beyond domestic roaming, to use it
there, whether making or receiving calls. Again, the customer support
people can tell you how much.
dan
Tuesday, April 27, 2004, 11:30:49 AM, you wrote:
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Help with fills

2008-04-15 15:01:07

I had lap-band surgery in September with Dr. Sanchez in Monterrey,
Mexico. I have lost his phone number. Does anybody have his phone
number?
I live in the midwest and have gone to a Dr. Sandhu in Coffeyville,
Kansas. The last fill last week he said he had to put way more
fluid than normal. Since the Mexican band is bigger, I am not sure
I have enough fill. I would like to go to somebody for an X-ray
fill to be sure there is not a leak. Does anybody know of a surgeon
in the United States who would do this for me?
Thanks for your help. Connie.

Re: Bandster bash

2008-04-15 10:16:59

I saw Dr. Rumbaut at the bash. He's so easy to talk to and so super
friendly. He was so helpful in answering some questions I had about
mexican plastic surgeons. I think he's cuter in person. :)
Gladys

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Phoning Home

2008-04-15 02:48:21

Ina,
I was just down there this last weekend and I used my cell phone. The
only cell phone I know that works in TJ is AT&T. In order to call to
the US using your AT&T cell phone, you need to first dial 001 and then
your area code and phone number. Hope this will help if you have a cell
phone!
Angie

Re: Phoning Home

2008-04-14 18:38:25

Buy one from one of the local stores down there, they are cheaper
that way.

Phoning Home

2008-04-14 11:27:28

What kind of calling cards did you use to call from Mexico to USA?
What is the best way? Can you use AT&T calling card? Any information
will be appreciated. Thanks Ina

Re: Medical Savings Plan (Cafeteria Plan)

2008-04-14 05:38:53

I found out about this through my own experience. You can claim it
through it if you have prior approval from your primary Dr. and
have a reason for having the surgery ie... medical complications.
Diabetes high blood pressure something stating you need the surgery.
Which I found to be strange you don't need that to calim it on your
taxes? hmmm go figure?
Connie Botello

Re: Texas Bandster Bash

2008-04-14 04:08:22

Gladys
Did you go to the seminar about why tighter is not better? if so
can you share with us what was said?
Thanks
Barbara

Medical Savings Plan (Cafeteria Plan)

2008-04-13 20:24:43

Hi,
I am in the process of having the lap- band- well just in the research phase. I have been lurking on this site for sometime and really appreciate all of the great information I have learned.
My question is this: Do you or have you used your Medical Savings Plan (aka Cafeteria plan) to have your surgery and/or fills done? My understanding is you can have your employer take out a certain amount of money each paycheck pretaxed and up to $3000 per year. When you have any type of Medical costs you can be re-imbursed for those expenses. My question is, can you go outside the States as well and be re-imbursed? If any of you have done this and know anything about this it would be greatly appreciated if you could let me know. Thanks in advance.
Jenny

Re: Docs in western Mass.

2008-04-13 16:17:35

Hi Susan,
Congratulations on your daughters graduation and your weight loss.
Please give me a call. Dr. Ortiz has proctored Doctor's in Boston
and Connecticut. Don't worry - in the event of a problem help is
just a phone call away.
Robin

RE: [mexicanbandsters] Suggestions for liquid diet ??

2008-04-13 05:30:08

I would love some suggestions for the clear liquid diet phase. I

Hi Tina,

Getting through the clear liquid diet is pretty limited. I had a stash of popsicles in the freezer. Three different types of broth, lots of water, jello, and plenty of prayers. Oh, I did cheat with fat free hot chocolate. That is what helped me through that phase. I get my second fill tomorrow and understand I need to do the clear liquid diet for a few days after the fill so I'll be back with you.

I lost weight really go on the clear and liquid diet. But then who wouldn't. Good luck to you. I continue to visualize my insides and then think what a great thing I am doing for my organs and myself. Be kind to your body and love it!!

Beth H

Dr Rumbaut

01/06/04

Dr. A. Rodriguez

2008-04-12 21:30:36

Thank you Rebecca!
I appreciate your taking the time to post about you experience with
Dr. Rodriguez. They called me and gave me my flight information on
Friday so it has taken it one step closer to 'reality' ;-)
My b/f is refusing to accept that he won't be able to fly with just
his 'resident alien card' (he's Trinidad & his passport has expired)
and he seems bound and determined to get a ticket on the same flights
after I told him Saturday that I had the flight arrangements now...
I am still planning on going it alone - but if he is there, it will
surely be so MUCH better - just because everything is better when
he's around... ya know? ;-)
Anyway I appreciate your sharing your experience Rebecca. I will be
sure to have some extra $$ just in case.
Amber

Suggestions for liquid diet ??

2008-04-12 18:00:08

I would love some suggestions for the clear liquid diet phase. I
was just banded on April 20th and I have at least one to two weeks
left of the liquid diet. I am hungry and a little tired of soup
broth, liquid yogurt and jello.
Thank you!
Tina
Banded by Dr. Rumbaut
203/192/115

SORRY ! xpost

2008-04-12 15:07:46

Sorry about the double posting ,I must have hit the send button twice. It is over 90 degrees here in L.A and my brain is fried. Sue H

Docs in western Mass.

2008-04-12 11:09:12

Hi to everyone, I have been banded for 8 months and am down 60 pounds so far.I have had one small(.5) fill only. I will be flying to Northampton, Mass. in 2 weeks for my daughters college graduation. I don't anticipate any problems but does anyone know of any doctors in western Mass. or northern Conn. that I could go to if ( God forbid!) I should have a problem? I will only be gone 5 days starting May 12 but would like to be prepared. I was banded by Dr. Ortiz so I will also be calling his office and Robin for information too. I do NOT like flying but am actually looking forward to having a NSV and fitting in the airplane seat at last. Thanks for any help you can send my way. Sue H.

Here's another roll call: what were your postop i...

2008-04-12 01:46:01

Not sure what to eat and eatting more and the wrong foods right now. I did well until i got off mushies. Now i have been eatting too much lately due to some stress. I need to get back to basic because i really am not hungery very often. I just read a post from Michelle on obesityhelp and she pretty much summed up all my fears of failure and explained once the fill is in place its easier to be successful. So i will take it from there. every day i tell myself i am not going to eat the wrong foods but each day i find myself messingup the past 2 weeks right after i found out i loss about 28 lbs. i still think my scall was off so i just added 8 pounds i saw 220 on the scale and even weigh my self at a friends how and it was real close to that. i think i am really terified of success. go figure. i am more terrifed of constant failure. i think i am setting my self up.
well are you going to see Dr Vello? i thought you went on Sunday or tahat must have been another Kim.
Bye for now. I will weigh next Wed or the first of the month from now on.
Debby
Ps why did you decide on the midband? when were you banded ? i thought you were the week after me. maybe some time we can meet at a meeting or get a fill at the same time.

RE: [mexicanbandsters] Dallas/FT Worth follow up Doctors

2008-04-12 01:04:03

ty very much. i am going to him now. thanks for the information.
Diana and Family

I have a date...

2008-04-11 15:25:40

I am being banded by Dr. Ortiz in Tijuana on 5/4. I will be there
from 5/2 to 5/7. I would love to meet with anyone that is going to
be down there on those dates. Object: mutual support and sharing of
our "birthdays." Please write...Carol

Dallas/FT Worth follow up Doctors

2008-04-11 13:39:52

Hello, I have lined up a Doctor in Grand Prairie Texas.Doctor Walter
Dobson 647 Great Southwest Pkwy. Telephone 972-660-3188 Hope this
helps

FLORIDA BANDSTER BASH

2008-04-10 23:52:20

Here is a preliminary itinerary for the Florida Bandster Bash in
Tampa, Florida at the beautiful Hard Rock Hotel and Casino on July 15-
18. If anyone has any questions please do not hesitate to ask. It
is very important,if you plan on attending, that you go to
www.floridabandsterbash.com to register. Also please contact the
Hard Rock Hotel and Casino at 1-800-937-0010 to book your rooms
asap. We only have a certain amount of rooms blocked at our special
price and they are going quick.
Sharon
Florida Bandster Bash President
FLORIDA BANDSTER BASH ITENERARY
JULY 15
Thursday night - early bird registration and meet and greet - 6:00
p.m -10:00 p.m.
A light dinner will be served, casual attire
JULY 16
Friday is going to be an "Enjoy Tampa" day. All meals will be
provided. You can lounge by the pool or enjoy the casino on the Hard
Rock property. There is also Busch Gardens near by and Historic Ybor
City with trolley rides to Channel Side.
Friday - Breakfast is from 8:00 a.m. - 10:00 a.m.
- Lunch is from 12:00 p.m. - 2:00 p.m.
- Jazzercise is from 3:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.
- Sock Hop 1950's style 7:00 p.m. - 11:00 p.m.
Attire for this is 1950's i.e.- poodle skirts, leather jackets,
peddle pushers, bobby socks - Dinner will also be served
JULY 17
Saturday morning and afternoon is full with seminars, vendors,
clothing swap
Saturday - Breakfast is from 7:00 a.m. - 9:30 a.m.
- Seminars are from 10:00 a.m. - 3:30
There will breaks in between to browse the vending hall.
- Lunch is from 12:00 p.m. - 1:00 p.m.
- Yoga and Pilates is from 4:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
- MardiGras Masquerade Gala & Goal Awards are 7:00 p.m. -
12:00 a.m.
- Attire is semi-formal to formal with masks.
If you are not able to purchase or find a mask before hand we will
have some available for sale at registration. - Dinner will also be
served.
JULY 18
Sunday - Breakfast and farewell speak by Dr. Ortiz 9:00 a.m.
11:00 a.m

Re: Financing Question

2008-04-10 16:50:43

Hi Beth,
Like Don said, sometimes we just have to get creative. I am a
returning-student and I used part of my student loan and part on
credit card. Now I'm working and going to school to pay for it, but I
feel it's worth it, if I can be healthy and thin. Just get creative
and think outside of the box!!!
Jackie
TX
Dr.Sanchez
03/08/04
-26

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Financing Question

2008-04-10 16:38:41

Hello Beth,

i am self pay and like alot of us we have to get creative. Personally what I did was charge it on a credit card and rented out my house to pay for it. the down side of this was I had to move in with family when I rented out my home. i know this isn't an option for everyone, but it was the only option I could come up with after several years of trying to figure this out. Maybe you will be able to get some thoughts from my ways at the least. good luck with your journey!!!

Don

10/20/03

-72

Dr. Sanchez

megmor04 <brm2k1@...

I was curious as to how self-pay people are financing their surgery?
I called medicredit..but they charge high interest and "processing
fees" ranging from $1080 - 1440..just for using them.
Thanks,
Beth

Re: How about a roll call on fills/unfills?

2008-04-10 06:41:28

I was banded in Acuna by Dr. Rod 12/20/02 and have had 4 fills. I'm
up to 6cc (11cc). Have lost 102lbs.
Gladys

Financing Question

2008-04-10 03:53:56

I was curious as to how self-pay people are financing their surgery?
I called medicredit..but they charge high interest and "processing
fees" ranging from $1080 - 1440..just for using them.
Thanks,
Beth

RE: [mexicanbandsters] Digest Number 781

2008-04-09 19:14:39

Doctors are reluctant to take on new patients that did not have the surgery
with them for fills because US doctors get sued at the drop of a hat and
their medical malpractice premiums are over the top. Taking on a patient
that was banded in Mexico makes them your patient in the uS and subject to
all the ugly stuff that comes with exposure to a lawsuit.
That is only my opinion as my husband is a physician and I am guseeing that
there is the same level of trepidation.
Janet Rifkin

Re: Here's another roll call: what were your postop instr...

2008-04-09 16:25:18

Hey Debby--great to hear from you. I live just west of Cleveland in
Elyria (Lorain County), about 20 minutes from the airport.
I'm still on liquids. I plan to go back to Dr. Rod for fills but I
may check in with Dr. Chlysta in Akron and Dr. Vitello in Chicago. I
got the midband so it will probably be even harder than usual for me
to find a US fill doc. But I had planned to go back to Acuna anyways
so no biggie.
I'm feeling really good but tired of liquids! How are you not eating
so good--I'm sure it takes a bit to get the hang of it!
Take care,
Kim

Re: [mexicanbandsters] How about a roll call on fills/unfills?

2008-04-09 13:24:35

I was banded in Mexico with Dr Sanchez. I've had one fill of 2cc with flouro in Mexico.

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Here's another roll call: what were your postop instr...

2008-04-09 01:14:29

Hi Kim
Where in Ohio do you live. I am East of Cleveland. I too was banded by Dr J Rodriguez.
Here are my stats.
Debby
banded 3/23/04
248/228/140
How are you doing with eatting? I am not eatting the best right now but working on it.
Where will you be getting you fills and when?

How about a roll call on fills/unfills?

2008-04-08 16:01:29

Just to have all the info in one place--how many fills/unfills have
you had and how long have you been banded? Plus maybe do you return
to Mexico for fills or go elsewhere?
I'm way new but thought it would be interesting to see. For the
record, I hope to travel back to Dr. Rodriguez for fills.
Thanks!
Kim in Ohio
4/14/04, Dr. Jose Rodriguez

Here's another roll call: what were your postop instructions?

2008-04-08 15:03:19

I'm new at this so just getting a cross-section of information.
Dr. Jose Rodriguez says two weeks of liquids followed by two weeks of
mushie foods. What were your instructions? I read a quote on here
somewhere "no milk, no sugar" in the first two weeks?
Hey, also, which Mexican doctors "install" the French midband?
Thanks for your input!
Kim in Ohio
4/14/04, Dr. Jose Rodriguez

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Dr. Vitello &amp; how much should I be eating??

2008-04-08 05:02:32

Dr. Vitello is terrific and very explanatory about diet as well. My sister
gets her fills from her there and I used him once. Just ask him all the
questions you have he will take the time to answer everything. Just make
sure you take him your operative report so that he knows which band you have
and how to fill it.
Good Luck

Re: Cross post from OSCB re my band experience as a RN

2008-04-08 00:23:04

Congrats to you Leann. You sound so much like me! I am also 46 yrs.
old, and gained all my weight while having babies. I too went to
nursing school, but never finished (got married & had babies instead!)
I was born & raised in San Diego, and I am very close to to the
Mexican people, so I have never felt that I would receive sub-
standard care there, and I didn't. In fact, my surgeons (Lopez, Ortiz
& Martinez) took great care of me. I also enjoy encouraging others in
this journey. Hope to meet you at one of the TJ bash's..........
Diane Beck
Dr. Lopez Corvala
1.31.02
- 96 lbs. BMI 22

Dr. Vitello &amp; how much should I be eating??

2008-04-07 23:02:12

Hi Group! I was banded in Mexico in March 22nd. I was given very
limited information regarding how much food I should be eating. I am
scheduled for my first fill with Dr. Vitello in Chicago this Sunday.
I am wondering if there is a book or other pieces of literature
available with more information. Also, has anyone met with Dr.
Vitello? If so, what is your opinion of him and does he have written
information he gives to his fill patients regarding food quanties.
I'm having a really difficult time find adequate information and it's
driving me nuts! Thanks for your responses. Katrina

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Question of liability

2008-04-07 14:46:49

Tuesday, April 20, 2004, 4:16:30 PM, you wrote:
C
C
C
C
C
It IS liability. The difference between moving around in service or
otherwise is that you chose to go out of country for surgery alone,
rather than getting it done in US. They are particularly leary of
foreign surgeons due to long standing prejudices, and also that you
didn't give your money to the US medical establishment. Remember, all
the docs are "on the same team" formed by the AMA.
Note, I'm NOT criticizing them, just describing the situation. We pay
our lower rates for surgery and make up some of that later in less
after care (in many cases) and in paying more for fills one way or
another. I'm happy with my choice, and knew of it before hand.
dan
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Cross post from OSCB re my band experience as a RN

2008-04-07 10:27:53

Leann,

Congrats on your success. Your post almost brought me to tears because I could just feel the joy emanating from it. I guess that I was just thinking about how it related to my own journey. I look forward to each month that I am able to try on clothes in my closet and see how much better I can fit in them. To stop looking around and wondering if I am the biggest person in the room so I don't feel out of place. To be able to turn back time so to speak. I haven't been this low in weight since 1997. And to think that I will be smaller than I was in high school... :-D For the first time in a long time, I just can't call myself fat when I try and down myself. So, I abuse my teddy bear instead. LOL I have a family reunion in July that I want to be sassy for so I need to get to work. I am a bit sassy right now but my ultimate goal is to hit a size 12 by july 16th. I guess I better leave those mini hershey's kisses along.....

Bianca

Dr. Rod 10/30/03 230/197/189/size 12/150
Leann <lcortimiglia@...

Hi folks..I havent had time to do a decent post till now.
I would like to introduce myself to you all..and tell my band
story...if you already know me you can move on to the next post..I
wanted to share this so I can be a person folks can email if they
are considering the band.

The time is almost here!!!

2008-04-06 22:04:13

Did you realize that the Texas Bandster Bash and Wellness Conference is in a
mere 3 days!?!?
There is still time to register and attend.
If you can only make it for 1 day that's ok. Contact us via the website
www.texasbandsterbash.com and we'll arrange a lower
registration rate for you.
Don't miss out on the opportunity to gather with over 100 of your fellow
bandsters and medical professionals. This is YOUR opportunity to ask
questions, relieve anxieties, satifisfy that curiosity! This is YOUR
weekend and YOUR Bash. Come on out and make it a great one!

Re: Question of liability

2008-04-06 21:35:30

I totally agree with you and since Im not a medical professional I
cant say for sure but my theory is that these doctors dont make any
money from doing fills..they make the money from the surgery and are
just obligated to do the fills for their own patients afterwards. Or
it could be that they have so many of their own patients to fill that
they just dont have the time to take on other patients.Allison in
Fort Worth
Banded 4-13-04
Dr Sanchez Monterrey Mexico
205/199/120

Cross post from OSCB re my band experience as a RN

2008-04-06 10:13:03

Hi folks..I havent had time to do a decent post till now.
I would like to introduce myself to you all..and tell my band
story...if you already know me you can move on to the next post..I
wanted to share this so I can be a person folks can email if they
are considering the band.
I am 46 years old, I am a single mom, RN for 24 years now, and have
been overweight for the past 22 years.
I gained weight with both my pregnancies that basically never left
except for short vacations. I could lose weight and regain within 6
months.. I did everything... Jenny Craig, Nutrisystem, Diet Center,
Weight watchers, Overeaters anon, and the soup diets etc etc..all to
gain and regain.
I had clothes from 22-28 in my closet not having been below a 22 in
14 years..
I am very energetic and active, but have hurt my back, fell and
broke my foot and just a year ago come down with high blood pressure.
The only thing wrong with my life was I was trapped in a body that
didnt fit my life..
My sweet friend Jen Runyan...who I had worked with had a band placed
and told me about it.. I chewed her out for going to Mexico, as I
was freaked as I have seen the patients that have had problems in
Mexico and brought ot the ICU where I work to fix them, if we could..
(these were not band patients by the way)
I told her she was nuts and dismissed it.
She then came to visit me and LOOKED like amillion bucks..she was
running etc etc..
So I said ok..Ill investigate the band, and embarked on a journey to
find a US MD that would do it for my insurance.
ENTERED INTO HELL
Fought my HMO for over a year, but in the meantime started going to
the bandster group in OSCB...and made some lifelong friends there
that were melting before my eyes.wow.. they all talked about Dr Kuri.
I was like"yep sure right..Mexico MD..not for me..(being the RN
elite folk I am.)
Well after almost 2 years and having spent money for
litagation..that I didnt have..I was NOWHERE closer..and the attys
werent returning my calls I didnt matter..I was just one person.
So I went to Bash to try and stuff the box and win a band...in the
drawing.(The bash is a party that the bandsters have yearly)
At the bash it was announced that Dr Kuri was going to do my band
scholarshipped...FREE for me.
Well I made a fool of myself, cried,,,and cried..
And then scheduled it for 9/18.
I wnet to Mexico accompanied by my daughter and 2 OCSB friends
Laurie and Michelle.
I was banded and home the next day.
I was treated so well, and the Mexican hospital was ok with me..and
Im careful..and watchfull.
Dr Kuri and his associates are great,the little San Fransciso
hospital may be small but it was all I needed.
Dr Kuri passed my test. I love him.Wish he could teach the MDs I
work for to be men of valor like him.
I am proud to be a DR kuri patient.
I am now 6 months out, just had my 2nd fill and have lost
50...almost 60 lbs..4 sizes....
My butt fits in an airplane seat,on a lawn chair(they dont break) I
can sit in a booth, tie my shoes...and I now climb 10 flights of
stairs 3 days a week in the stairway I never visited in 9 years at
my hospital.
Most of all I dont look like the lady on my drivers license at all
anymore..LOL
"Who is that woman???"
If I can encourage or help you or sit with you in Mexico to make you
feel better about going there....
Call me...email me..etc etc..I want to be there to give back to you
all what has been given to me..
CONFIDENCE...
Trust..in Dr Kuri..like so many of us have.
Have a great life..
By the way I am off my BP meds, havent used and inhaler in months
and my foot is the only thing that still hurts..soooo
Thats all folks..
like I said contact me if you need info..
Blessings..
Leann
286/236/(goal 140)
banded 9/18/03 Dr Kuri
DOWN 4 sizes with 2 fills.

Question of liability

2008-04-06 08:49:24

Why is it some US doctors refuse to do any aftercare for those of us who were banded out of this country?

If you were in the military and stationed overseas/or a Maine, and had to have a serious surgery, that would require years of follow-up and you later move back to the states/or California and your spouse gets out of the military (does not retire from military), does that mean you could not get any kind of follow up care from a California physician because this was done by a overseas/or Maine doctor?

Hope my analogy isn't confusing? It just seems to me, that they should not be using liability as an issue. In this mobile society of ours who stays put in one place? I personally have moved at least 15 times through out my life including out of state moves.

Someone please enlighten me on this?

Cheryl

Regarding follow up care SCamp859 - about Robin

2008-04-06 07:58:19

From: "scamp859" <SCamp859@a...
Date: Mon Apr 19, 2004 11:53 pm
Subject: PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT ROBIN
Found this on the Dr. Ortiz board - it seems her follow up care was
taken care of. Just as an added note Dr. Ortiz does not charge for
his services only for Radiology and that includes patients that
were banded by other Doctors. One of the reasons I had surgery
with Dr. Ortiz he was able to refer me to Doctors who would other
wise NOT ACCEPT other patients. These Doctors were proctored by
Dr. Ortiz and one told me directly he is considered an expert in
this field and within the scientific community.
Thanks Robin for taking care of the fill issue for my friends and
myself...they were not freaking out as I was but I have the
capability to freak for all three........and I'm d--n good at it. Can
you tell I am a type A personality....?? To everyone else if you've
never seen Robin then i can tell you than if I were to achieve
anywhere near the goal that Robin has I would be thrilled to death
but unfortunately even losing weight could never make me look as
beautiful as she is.....

Re: life has returned (cross post)

2008-04-05 21:13:47

Brad, CONGRATULATION!!!! GOOD for you! I know that right now for me
I am about half the size I usta be but am still overwieght, but now
I can move and do things that I had to give up years ago because of
my size. More improtant then the loss of pounds is the regain of
life!!! I love it! Again congrats!!
Barbara

Re: Digest Number 777

2008-04-05 20:33:24

Cheryl,
The patient handbook that came with your band will tell you the
exact capacity of your band. It can not tell you how much capacity
you should be given at any certain time, since the thickness of
each persons stomach wall will vary. Also if there was any fat
actually attached to the stomach walls, this will cause a difference
in the actuall volume that your band will accept.
Check back with the person that did your fill.And ask how was the
amount of fill determined. Ask how is it dertermined if there is a
possiblity that you need another adjutment.
I know that even with my band adjusted correctly, if I consume high
carb, high fat or high calorie foods and drinks and will eventually
gain , not just pounds , but inches!
The band was designed to lower hte volume of solid healthy foods, we
still make the choice what to eat, and sad to say, I have been
slacking in that area.
Getting the band adjusted properly goes a long way to making sure
the volume of healthy food is limited.
So if you are making the smart food choices and getting in
increased physical activity and still are gaining inches and pounds,
because the volume of that healthy food is an unhealthy amount, then
call the fill person and get the band checked out to see if it is
adjusted correctly.
There is a learning curve in this for all of us.
Barbara

life has returned (cross post)

2008-04-05 09:04:53

Just a quick note. I love this band. I'm down to 226 from 290, on
the way to 195. I played my first softball game in 20 years last
week (2nd game tonight). I am a little sore but feel great. Today
I joined a Gym, they looked at me and said it looks like your
primary goal is to loose weight!!! I just laughed and said the
weight is handled; I just want to get fit. A few weeks ago I took
my first ride on roller coaster in 20 years as well. I also started
flying again it's been 5 years since I've done that. I had
forgotten how much I have stopped doing over the years. I just
wanted say how good it feels. Thanks for listening. Brad

RE: [mexicanbandsters] Digest Number 778

2008-04-05 01:30:21

Dear Whiner,
Wait until you see and feel the results of losing 50 or more pounds. You
somehow will find the money for a fill and find it easier to spend it on a
fill. Stop whining you have started a new life just make the rest happen!
Good luck
Janet Rifkin

Re[2]: [mexicanbandsters] Aftercare

2008-04-04 23:29:09

Well, things change and shit happens. And no one is defending anyone,
just pointing out the facts of life.
I assume you're talking about Dr. Grossbard, since you say the doc
works with Dr. Ortiz in Mexico, assuming you mean their surgeries in
Cancun.
I'd simply call and talk to Dr. Grossbard personally, not his office
staff. Remind him that he's already cared for you, that you're sorry
but you weren't informed of some technical detail that was omitted or
overlooked, and ask NICELY, not in an accusatory or hostile way, if
he'd be willing to take you back for fills.
dan
Monday, April 19, 2004, 5:27:13 PM, you wrote:
Sac
Sac
Sac
Sac
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Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Re: Just banded April 13th...back home

2008-04-04 14:58:09

Welcome back! Be sure and take it easy and don't do too much like I
did. Each day brings more energy and staminia.
Congratulations on your band.
Carolyn

Re: Initial savings in Mexico vsSUPER overcharged aftercar...

2008-04-04 10:01:26

Following all the other responses you have received to this post I
will not go into any more depth other then to say that ANY persons
medical care is their own responsibility. Doctors and their nurses,
or other staff, can not possibly anticipate all situations that
patients such as yourself will encounter.
It has to be a patients' own responsibility to do the research on
their own and explore ALL avenues prior to making any surgery
decision. Any doctor I have ever been seen by will answer any
questions that I can come up with, but I am the one responsible to
ask the questions, just like you are responsible to ask your
questions.
Maybe you just need to do more research on fills and explore other
avenues for receiving your fill...

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Digest Number 777

2008-04-04 04:51:52

Where can I look on the internet for the actual fill capacity of the 11 cc Inamed lap band?

My first fill was 1 cc. I can't tell the difference at all as far as eating quantity goes. I even gained two pounds this last week. EEEEEkkkkk.

Cheryl

Re: Aftercare

2008-04-03 18:55:47

Dr Sanchez also does free fills and aftercare for life, you pay for
radiology if needed. I live in TX and it cost me about the same to go
to Reynosa (when he's there) as to get a fill here at home and I
would much rather see my surgeon,
Jackie
TX

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Aftercare

2008-04-03 18:31:33

Monday, April 19, 2004, 2:41:16 PM, you wrote:
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Dr. Ortiz also does free fills for life. As with Dr. Kuri, you have
to pay for the radiology for the fluoro. I believe this is true with
several other Mexican surgeons as well, but can't say for sure.
dan
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Aftercare

2008-04-03 09:09:14

Scamp859 is making an EXCELLENT point and should be reiterated from
time to time. Being banded 3 years, I cannot, repeat, cannot express
the importance of aftercare. Although the majority of patients have
no problems and go on their merry way, I have had issues with my
band. I have a very sensitive stomach due to heavy arthritis meds
for years. I have the old problem port and have had additional
surgeries (one tube disconnect and one port replacement - both
reimbursed by Inamed due to defective parts). You just don't know
what kind of aftercare you may need.
I thank God every day that I chose Dr. Kuri for my surgeon. He has
spent countless hours taking care of me, fills and unfills, surgery,
reflux issues, etc. I know that if I ever need him, 24 hours a day,
he is available. This gives me great comfort to know that I can call
him and reach him anytime - if it is urgent, they transfer me to his
cell phone. He is always accessible to his patients - even non-
surgery patients. Many people go to Dr. Kuri for aftercare because
they cannot get their surgeons to follow-up with them. This saddens
me when patients go through this.
For all newbies, be sure to ask what the aftercare policy is BEFORE
you decide on a surgeon. Personally, being in southern California, I
know of many first-hand experiences with bandsters who cannot get the
attention or aftercare they need from their surgeons.
I asked Dr. Kuri one time WHY he gives free fills for life since NO
OTHER SURGEON that I know of gives free fills. He said he never
wants a patient to NOT come back for a fill because they cannot
afford it. He said he donates his time to his patients so they are
comfortable coming back for check-ups and fills. He never wants
money to be an issue - just budget for the radiologist and he will
make time for you (yes, it is Mexican time so you may have to wait
for him).
Just my opinion, but many people don't factor in the aftercare and to
me, that is one of THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS! I hear too often about
patients "being dropped" after the surgeon has their money for the
surgery. Please be sure to do your homework, it makes all the
difference in the world.
Debbie
Dr. Kuri 03-12-01
-90 pounds

Re[2]: [mexicanbandsters] Initial savings in Mexico vsSUPER overcharged aftercar...

2008-04-03 00:23:19

Monday, April 19, 2004, 10:00:09 AM, you wrote:
Sac
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Sac
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As to why his US contact didn't get back to you, I can't say. She is,
to the best of my knowledge, a facilitator and not a full time
employee. She may be out of town, not available, or something else.
How long has it been that she's been out of contact? Obviously we're
not dealing with a medical emergency here.
I don't know which doctor you're referring to in Florida, so can't
comment on him/her. I have no knowledge of what you thought was
arranged, whether there was a change in policy, whether there was a
misunderstanding, or what. I'll simply say that there are a multitude
of fill doctors in Florida from what I've seen. I also know that some
people pay over a thousand dollars a fill in the Northeast US.
Figures in the $200 to $400 range are common throughout most of the US
from what I've seen.
dan
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Re: Initial savings in Mexico vsSUPER overcharged aftercare in US

2008-04-03 00:08:19

I agree with you on your take for lack on nutritional and
psychological counseling, I too received very little of either.
I have not gotten a fill yet. I am sure that would also
have its own challenges.
I think the problem is the lack of follow up and access to
the doctors once you are banded. I think they should give us
written materials on after care. If it was not for these
supportive boards I don't know what I would have done post-op.
My hope is the doctors would hear the patients and fine tune
their practice.
Good luck to you, and keep working the band.