Off on the great adventure

2008-07-31 21:42:08

Well, we're about packed, and leaving at 0500 on Saturday for the
airport to fly away to DFW. Depending on time and such, we may even
get to see Fran and/or Babs in the Dallas area tomorrow. Will also
depend on how I feel.
Since the doc put a drain back in the lower TT area yesterday, I've
continued to drain, though more slowly, but not slowly enough to pull
it. Since it is one that has the "needle" part in it, it is kind of
uncomfortable at times and positions, but nothing that I can't manage
pretty easily. This too shall pass, and thankfully the fluid is
passing on into the little drain container.
We've talked to a few folks/family in DFW area and were glad to hear
that none of them were washed away or had property damage in the
flooding of the last couple days. And the car we're picking up is
reported to be fine. May check in a few times over next week from
various places on the road. Back at home next Sunday (9 days), God
willing, the creek don't rise, and all that. Hmmm....could be some
truth in that these days I guess.
dan
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Re: [mexicanbandsters] On your way to Mexico?

2008-07-31 18:56:18

i am interested in going in November, when are you thinking of going?
Kristi

Re: [mexicanbandsters] A MUST READ for anyone consider Dr. Verboonen

2008-07-31 07:16:14

This is actually old news. He pled guilty and was sentenced to nine
months in prison in the federal pen. He's undoubtedly still in there,
as he didn't go away until Jan or so. Search for an old email from me
on Verboonen and I quote all the facts based on other web info from
the US Attorney, and a personal conversation with the same US Attorney
in San Diego. Of course some of his partners are still doing the
business. He also paid a fine.
dan
Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 4:11:18 PM, you wrote:
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Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

On your way to Mexico?

2008-07-31 03:40:55

Hello everyone I am new to this site and I was wondering if anyone is
on their way to Mexico. I am still researching a doctor but I am
ready to get going.So if you have any information on which doc is
best please let me know. I am coming from Texas but will buddy up
with someone whose interested in going.
Thank you

[mexicanbandsters] dr.kuri - what to do with valuables while there

2008-07-30 16:54:43

Many people have gone alone because they dont want anyone to know they are having the surgery done, and they have been absolutely fine. I would not worry about that unduly, you are never really alone anyway, especially if you have a driver that picks you up from the airport and takes you to all your pre-op testing etc. I have walked the streets of Tijuana many times without incident or fear.

The hospital is run by nuns but if you are uncomfortable you can always put it in the hotel safe, they will give you a signed receipt for your valuables :-) You are in good hands Anita!

Sylvia

dr.kuri - what to do with valuables while there

2008-07-30 12:39:46

I'm scheduled for surgery on 8-7-04 with dr. Kuri. I m travelling alone and am wondering what to do with my valuables while in surgery and recovery? Anyone who is a Kuri patient recently and travelled alone please email me at anitajoalexander@... and let me know how this is handled.......thanks in advance anita

Re: [mexicanbandsters] dr.kuri - what to do with valuables while there

2008-07-30 11:24:40

Can you get someone to go with you ? Please don't go alone. Alot of the bandsters even offer to go with you if they live near you. Please consider it carefully. I don't think its a good idea

Erika

Dr. Ponce de leon

2008-07-30 00:51:33

Hello,

My name is heather and i had the lap band on may 23rd 2003, the surgery was performed by Dr. Ponce De Leon. I had no complications and am still doing great. Two of my friends had the same surgery on the 8th of march 2004 and both are doing well. I have lost 105 lbs, the others have lost 82lbs and 40lbs. He doesn't speak english, but another doctor interprets for him and most of the office staff speak english. I would recommend him highly as a surgeon, they took care of all of us well. The hospital that they take you to, the staff doesn't speak english either. Overall I was very satisfied and glad that I did it. If i can help you with anything else let me know.

Heather Wiley

I was wondering if anyone knew anything about Dr. Ponce de Leon with
Obesity Goodbye in Tijuana. I have done several archive searches
with only a couple of results; that surprises me! Any info would be
appreciated (good or bad). If their website is correct (which I
assume it is), the price is really good!
Feel free to e-mail privately.

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Obesity Goodbye - Dr. Ponce de leon

2008-07-29 23:36:54

Dr Rodriguez does the surgery for $7000 in Acuna Mexico two blocks from boarder south of Texas they have a good track record and an assistant will pick you up from the airport in SanAntonio. For the 2 hour drive down. I went there and am pleased with his work.

Debby

Obesity Goodbye - Dr. Ponce de leon

2008-07-29 19:37:33

I was wondering if anyone knew anything about Dr. Ponce de Leon with
Obesity Goodbye in Tijuana. I have done several archive searches
with only a couple of results; that surprises me! Any info would be
appreciated (good or bad). If their website is correct (which I
assume it is), the price is really good!
Feel free to e-mail privately.

A MUST READ for anyone consider Dr. Verboonen

2008-07-29 14:09:01

I don't know if this has been posted before or not, but an article
of interest may be found at:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20030410-9999_1m10fraud.html
I will not comment about the article, but read it for yourself. If
you are considering Obesity Goodbye Center, it's important to gather
all the facts!

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Here I am half myself and twice as happy.

2008-07-29 07:19:29

Diane;
I am so happy for you that you lost all your weight! Best of luck. You must feel like a million bucks.
Libbi

Here I am half myself and twice as happy.

2008-07-28 20:42:30

I finally have stabilized and finished my weight loss. I am now 128
pounds. I had Dr. Joya remove 1cc from my band and the sweet spot
is sweeter than ever. I can eat more, I dont P.B., my joint pains
are manageable and I stay between 126 and 130 without worrying about
what I eat or how much.
Gosh, if I was just 30 years younger I would propose to handsome Dr.
Joya as we found out that he is single at our fill party. Such a
wonderful caring man and did I say good looking?!!
Love and strength and luck to you all.
Diane

Re: Surgeon Changed????

2008-07-28 14:13:20

the same Dr. Ponce that has a clinic in Georgia?? He is supposed to
be wonderful! I have heard great things about him if it is the same
guy!
Good luck!

Happy Bandiversary to me.

2008-07-28 06:22:14

By golly I made it. Was banded on 7/19/02 at the ripe
old age of 64 and with every co morbidity you could
come up with. Type II diabetes (95 untits of NPH daily)
hypertension, degenerative arthritis, yeast infections
everywhere Hi cholesterol. It was all going south in a
hurry. Then I saw a full page ad by Bioenterics in the
Diabetes Forcast magazine. That's for me. Started my
investigation and like hundreds of other started running
into the walls. Could not afford self pay. Found out about
Mexico. Research, research, research. Found Dr. Ortiz.
Thank God, because I was old, I wanted the best chance for
survival there was out there. Dr. O had the skills and
ability to get me thru this. What a cultural shock Mexico
was for me. All in a positive light. It was the most
positive medical experience I have ever had. The fact that
the Cr. actually cares about you and checks on you and wants
to hear from you was something I had not experienced here in
the states. So here I am two years later from a had full of
pills am and pm to just 10 units NPH in the pm. I am hoping to
lose 5 to 10 more lbs to kick the needle habit also.
Thanks for listening,
Gayle
July 19, 2002
266/160 hopefully 150
Dr. Ariel Ortiz Lagadere, MD, FACS

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Happy Bandiversary to me.

2008-07-28 03:47:21

gayle, beautiful story ....... you are my hero and idol...........why am I worried.......not anymore, congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! anita soon to be banded....
Gayle Muller <grapgirl@...

By golly I made it. Was banded on 7/19/02 at the ripe
old age of 64 and with every co morbidity you could
come up with. Type II diabetes (95 untits of NPH daily)
hypertension, degenerative arthritis, yeast infections
everywhere Hi cholesterol. It was all going south in a
hurry. Then I saw a full page ad by Bioenterics in the
Diabetes Forcast magazine. That's for me. Started my
investigation and like hundreds of other started running
into the walls. Could not afford self pay. Found out about
Mexico. Research, research, research. Found Dr. Ortiz.
Thank God, because I was old, I wanted the best chance for
survival there was out there. Dr. O had the skills and
ability to get me thru this. What a cultural shock Mexico
was for me. All in a positive light. It was the most
positive medical experience I have ever had. The fact that
the Cr. actually cares about you and checks on you and wants
to hear from you was something I had not experienced here in
the states. So here I am two years later from a had full of
pills am and pm to just 10 units NPH in the pm. I am hoping to
lose 5 to 10 more lbs to kick the needle habit also.
Thanks for listening,
Gayle
July 19, 2002
266/160 hopefully 150
Dr. Ariel Ortiz Lagadere, MD, FACS

read it immediately

2008-07-27 23:08:56

I have your password!

Re: Just my two-cents worth

2008-07-27 19:51:15

Hi,

I haven't written any in this group but have have been lurking in the background.

I wanted to give my two cents to all the people considering Mexico Surgery.

I had my surgery done 3 years ago by Dr Rumbaut. I have no regret about my choice of surgeons. He is one of the best and the hospital is fantastic.

My only regret is that I did't allocate enough money to have all my follow up work done in Mexico. I travel in the winter and work in the Alaska Bush in the summer. I can tell you that there are not many American Doctors that want to take on another Doctors patient. I can't tell you how much money I have spent on trying to get a doctor to fill the band correctly. They don't know how to do the proceedure and how much to put in, even if they hip the port. I even have a fill tape that I was able to purchase from one of the bandster but the factory recommends their needles and you can't purchase them without going to their two day siminar. I even let an American band surgeon talk me into surgery to flip my port over so he could do an adjustment .I found out last week when I returned to DR Rumbaut for a follow up, he would not have had to do a re-surgery to fill my port. In fact, he has never had to due a re-surgery just to fill a flipped port. He mentioned that in Europe
that they don't even stitch them down they are use two needles to turn them over.

So I guess my point is this! If you are considering Mexico Surgery, please try to get back to your surgeon for your fills and follow up. You will end up saving money in the long run and end up losing weight faster because you know you have the correct amount of fill.

Betsy Drake

Dr Rumbaut 2001

AT Goal

Follow up care in Minnesota

2008-07-27 05:52:13

Does anyone know of any doctors in Minnesota or close by who will do
follow up care for patients who've been banded in Mexico? Lisa

Re: Surgery with Dr. Kuri on Aug. 3

2008-07-27 03:13:56

Well to be honest I am considering Dr Kuri for my own banding. I have
heard wonderful things about him and even though he performs surgery
in Mexico he is a member of the American Society of Bariatric
surgeons. I think providing a lower cost to those of us who must pay
cash is a big part of that as medical costs in the US are grossly
inflated. (I am a nurse in the hospital so this is not a rumor that I
heard)He has also performed over 300 bandings so if he was a quack,
in the age of the internet we would have heard about it. Dont let
anyone pee on your parade. Maybe your doc is jealous because of all
the money she'll be losing when you get healthy :)Go grab your new
life and keep us posted

Surgery with Dr. Kuri on Aug. 3

2008-07-26 22:45:40

Hi all! I'm fairly new to this- I think I've only posted once.
Anyway, I had an appointment today with my regular doctor and she
wasn't real thrilled with the fact that I'm going to Mexico to have
my surgery because she said I'm not a real low-risk for surgery and
is concerned about it.(I have Type II Diabetes and High Blood
pressure, both of which I have under pretty good control because I
have been working at getting my surgery here in Minnesota, but
things kind of fell apart with insurance and such.I found out I
could not afford the remaining balance that was left after my
insurance paid their part and also my surgeon is moving to another
state and another hospital is taking over his patients.They are the
ones who informed me that their pre-op tests would probably take up
the whole amount that my insurance pays.)So, up until today, I was
feeling real good about going to Mexico and "at peace" with my
decision, now I guess I'm nervous and scared about it. I also told
my sister and she was trying to discourage me because she's heard
some things that are not so good about Mexico I guess. I already
have my surgery date, my airline tickets, everything's a GO. I guess
what I'm looking for is some encouragement from people who've been
there and know more about it. Lisa - A SOON TO BE BANDSTER!?!!

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Surgeon Changed????

2008-07-26 14:16:42

Hi Jeff,
Dr.Ponce banded my husband,daughter and I on
4-20-04. He did a great job and there were no
complications. He is a very nice man and spent a lot
of time with us before and after the surgery. Laura---

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Life is better when you share it with a Bulldog! 509-442-3624
www.beefeaterbulldogs.com

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Carpal Tunnel

2008-07-26 09:29:56

Two suggestions. First, look into getting the tunnel(s) fixed. When I
had it done 17 years ago I ended up with a couple inch long scar on
each wrist, and unable to use either hand for about ten days (I had
both done at once for a host of good reasons). These days they do it
lap and the recovery is very quick. Also, if your office chair
doesn't have arms that are adjustable so that your elbows can rest on
them the entire time you're using keyboard, insist that they so
provide. Much of the trouble is the full weight of your arms hanging
from shoulders in an extended position all day.
Second, NSAIDs and such are OK for most of us if we use them in
moderation, only as needed, and with food or other substances to
counteract their attack on the tummy. Also, better to take them in
smaller physical pieces so that they don't get stuck and irritate
stoma.
Finally, if Dr. Kuri says I'm full of it, he's right. However, I know
from personal experience, that in both of these cases they work for
me.
dan
Tuesday, July 20, 2004, 3:46:58 PM, you wrote:
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Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Surgeon Changed????

2008-07-26 03:43:23

Hello All, I have a surgery date for July 31st, it was supposed to
be with Dr. Ramos Kelly, and now 9 days before I leave my
coordinator emails me and tells me that Dr. Ponce De Leon will be
doing my band as Dr. Kelly is no longer available. Has anyone had
theirs done by Dr. Ponce, or heard anything, you can email me
privately, this is very disturbing that there is going to be a
change at the last minute, any help would be
appreciated...........................Jeff

Carpal Tunnel

2008-07-26 00:18:08

My Carpal Tunnel is flaring up and I haven't had a problem with it
since before the band (12/5/03). I understand we are to avoid anti-
inflammatories (sp?) that could irritate the pouch and hurt the
band. I've got a call and an email in to Dr. Kuri but do any of you
know of anything I could take - this is the third day in a row that
I'm waking up with numb fingers until mid-morning and it's affecting
my code (systems analyst)......
Laura

Re: Martha??

2008-07-25 10:58:13

I was just thinking about her too....I haven't seen her post in a
while...I hope she's ok?
Coleen
Keller, tx
Dr. Rod 7/19/03
222/165/150

Martha??

2008-07-25 06:28:37

Has anyone heard from Martha (that damn rancher)???
Was just thinkin' about her the other day and was wondering how she &
her hubby are doing.
Terri in AZ
185/144.2/105 4'10
01/24/04 Dr. Kuri

Re: fill docs in us--missouri, tenn, il, arkansas, kentucky?

2008-07-25 00:28:39

Hi Jessica
I go to Dr. Allen In Louisville, KY. He is an excellent fill
person. Charges $250. My port is tilted and he got it on the first
stick.
Cookie

Re: 1 Year Bandiversary.....LONG

2008-07-24 23:28:37

Beverly,
Thank you for your compliments!!! Please tell Dr. Rod I said
hello...I can't believe a year has passed since I've seen him. You
know your daughter is in good hands. Good luck and keep us posted on
her progress.
Coleen

USA fill Doc database?

2008-07-24 18:59:35

Hi Jessica here is the correct link.

http://snipurl.com/7vk0

Sylvia

Subject: [mexicanbandsters] Re: USA fill Doc database?

hello--i am very interested in seeing this information--but when i click the link,
i get nothing. am i missing something?
thanks
jessica

fill docs in us--missouri, tenn, il, arkansas, kentucky?

2008-07-24 13:33:04

hi, i am wanting to get things in order before i start the process of getting a
surgery date....i live in southeast missouri, 2 hours from st louis, 3 from
memphis and nashville, 6 from kc or chicago. anyone have any suggestions
or recommendations of docs in or near these cities? i am not only interested
in price, but quality--i am really freaked out by the stories of people who have
had inexperienced fill docs--some woman said she would get stuck over 20
times before getting it right--NO THANKS!:) i am a needle phobic, and i know
i will have to suck it up to a degree, but i definetly want to be sure i get a
good
doc--thanks!! jessica

Re: [mexicanbandsters] 1 Year Bandiversary.....LONG

2008-07-23 23:28:38

Collen....does Doctor Snow take Mexican bandsters? I live in Ft Worth. Does he do it with Floura? Thanks in advance....Ima

Re: USA fill Doc database?

2008-07-23 23:28:14

hello--i am very interested in seeing this information--but when i click the
link,
i get nothing. am i missing something?
thanks
jessica

1 Year Bandiversary.....LONG

2008-07-23 18:14:30

TODAY is my 1-year bandiversary and honestly I cannot believe the
journey that I have experienced. I have learned so much about myself
this past year that I thought it necessary to share. There are many
of you that see the long road and wonder when will you make it to the
end (goal)? I too have wondered every week when will I get there,
when will I be the size 10 that I so desperately see, but can't
touch? I will tell you though, that if I had to do the entire
journey from July 19, 2003 to July 19, 2004, I would do it again and
exactly the samechallenges and all.
I have "only" lost 57 lb but that 57 lbs. has changed my life. At
the beginning, my goal was to get healthyok, really my goal was to
get into size 10 and being healthy would just follow. I had other
goals, like running a 5k and doing gymnastics again and I can tell
you that I have accomplished both of these goals, plus many more.
In addition to goals, I've faced challenges too. My biggest
challenge thus far has been recently. On June 16th I had to have all
the fill removed from my band because I wasn't able to eat
anything....nothing would stay down. I was having horrible reflux
and pain in my stomach, side and back. When I would run, like I had
every day for the past 11 months, my side would get a cramp that
would get worse the harder I breathed. I was so worried that my band
had slipped because of my symptoms so I went to Dr. Snow in Decatur,
TX who is my follow-up doctor and he immediately saidGALLBLADDER!!!
Well, once he removed all of my 2.5cc's I felt instantly better, but
I still had pain when I exercised and when I ate certain foods like
chocolate or anything fried. So, on June 28th I had my sonogram to
see if I had stones and then a test for gallbladder function.
Happily, I did not have stones, but sadly my gallbladder was
functioning at much less than 50%. So, w/ my symptoms and my
percentage of functionality, we decided to remove it. On Thursday,
July 8thit came out. Dr. Snow performed the surgery and used the
same big incision from my band insertion. While he was in there, he
said my band was perfectly positioned and in great shape. He even
complimented Dr. Rodriguez who did my surgery. It's now over a week
later and I'm back at work and feeling great. Today, I even got back
on the treadmill and walked, I wasn't on it to break a sweat, but
after 10 days of sitting around, I needed to move. This Wednesday I
go back for my follow-up visit and a fill and I can't wait because
this gallbladder thing really put me back, but it was necessary.
I didn't reach my 1-year goal of being at goal (150 lbs.), but I'm
only 15 lbs away and I know that I can reach that goal by October
23rd (my next chosen goal date). I still have some issues to work on
like snacking at night in front of the TVand boy this is the hardest
habit to break. But, at least I recognize my downfalls and am
working at fixing them.
For all you newbies, I just have a few things I need to point out:
1.The "last" meal before your surgery is not your "last" meal. I was
pleasantly surprised that I would be able to eat "normal" after
surgery, just not as muchso try not to go crazy before your surgery.
2.Please read the archives, you will find many answers there that
will help you on your journey.
3.Don't compare yourselves to othersit's not worth it, you'll just
sabotage your own goals.
4.Be happy with your band journey you'll experience ups and downs,
but it's all part of life lessons. This is an exciting journey and
you'll enjoy the ride.
Lastly, I want to thank my husband, Renato, my parents and Dr. Snow
for all of their support. I have read so many posts describing the
lack of support from spouses, family members and doctors, and I feel
so sad for those people because you need support from home and great
follow-up care to succeed.
Blessings,
Coleen
Keller, TX
Dr. Rod 7/19/03
222/165/150

Missouri fills

2008-07-23 10:49:17

I am a Kuri patient that just moved to Missouri. I had been getting
my fills from Dr. Vitello in Chicago but was hoping to find someone
closer to home.
I see on the list there is a Dr. Wagner in Missouri but it doesn't
say where he is or any details.
Has anyone ever used this Dr. Wagner ?? Does anyone have a good
fill Dr. that is in either Kansas City or St. Louis. ?
Thanks
Martha Heim
Kuri
7/11/04
219/148/117

SAGB cont'd

2008-07-23 06:15:38

Sorry, the second website I put on was incorrect. The correct site
is lapbandtalk.com.

Swedish Adjustable Gastric Band- SAGB and Band date

2008-07-22 22:40:23

Hi,
I hope this helps those that are thinking about getting the
SAGB. There are few sites that have a lot of information on it,
most people have had the lap band. I've tried looking for info. on
this site and have had some luck but I thought I would share some
places to get additional information. I went to
http://www.ninetta.ingentaselect.com. It is a site that has
journals for doctors and has abstracts on tests done on the SAGB.
The SAGB has tested very well. For those just starting to look for
a type of band the SAGB was the first band designed in Sweden.
Johnson and Johnson has bought the rights to distribute the band in
the U.S., it has passed FDA clinical trials and may be available in
theU.S. within a year and a half. Another good place to find other
people who actually have been banded by the SAGB is a site at
www.lapband.com. I found quite a few people there that had the band
and were quite happy. Also you can find some other information if

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Medicare Redefines Obesity As an Illness

2008-07-22 13:30:24

Very interesting thanks Mike!

Sylvia

Medicare Redefines Obesity As an Illness
Fri Jul 16, 7:47 AM ET

By ELIZABETH WOLFE, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Medicare now recognizes obesity as an illness, a change in policy that may allow millions of overweight Americans to make medical claims for treatments such as stomach surgery and diet programs.

Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson said, "Obesity is a critical public health problem in our country that causes millions of Americans to suffer unnecessary health problems and to die prematurely."

Treating obesity-related illnesses results in billions of dollars in health care costs, Thompson said.

"With this new policy, Medicare will be able to review scientific evidence in order to determine which interventions improve health outcomes for seniors and disabled Americans who are obese," Thompson told a Senate panel on Thursday.

With the removal of language in Medicare policy that said obesity is not an illness, beneficiaries will be able to request a government review of medical evidence to determine whether certain treatments for obesity can be covered.

Though Medicare and Medicaid programs cover sicknesses caused by obesity including type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, several types of cancer and gallbladder disease the previous policy meant that weight-loss therapies have often been denied coverage.

"The medical science will now determine whether we provide coverage for the treatments that reduce complications and improve quality of life for the millions of Medicare beneficiaries who are obese," said Mark McClellan, administrator of the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which oversees health insurance programs for the elderly, disabled and poor.

Some detractors of the change said it is based on unsound science.

"We have a tremendously exaggerated fear of higher than average weight in this culture," said University of Colorado law professor Paul Campos, author of "The Obesity Myth."

"What's partly baseless is this notion that the government needs to intervene to make Americans thinner," Campos said.

HHS said the policy change is not expected to immediately alter Medicare coverage, and no figures were provided on potential costs to taxpayers. The Medicare agency said it may meet this fall to review scientific evidence on various surgical procedures related to obesity.

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Digest Number 865

2008-07-22 09:37:08

Jeff,

I have a Siltec scale that goes to 500. They also have one that goes to 1000 and I find it to be pretty accurate. Look at them here.

http://www.balances.com/amcells/bps.html

Barb F.

Medicare Redefines Obesity As an Illness

2008-07-22 08:36:44

Medicare Redefines Obesity As an Illness
Fri Jul 16, 7:47 AM ET

By ELIZABETH WOLFE, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Medicare now recognizes obesity as an illness, a change in policy that may allow millions of overweight Americans to make medical claims for treatments such as stomach surgery and diet programs.

Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson said, "Obesity is a critical public health problem in our country that causes millions of Americans to suffer unnecessary health problems and to die prematurely."

Treating obesity-related illnesses results in billions of dollars in health care costs, Thompson said.

"With this new policy, Medicare will be able to review scientific evidence in order to determine which interventions improve health outcomes for seniors and disabled Americans who are obese," Thompson told a Senate panel on Thursday.

With the removal of language in Medicare policy that said obesity is not an illness, beneficiaries will be able to request a government review of medical evidence to determine whether certain treatments for obesity can be covered.

Though Medicare and Medicaid programs cover sicknesses caused by obesity including type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, several types of cancer and gallbladder disease the previous policy meant that weight-loss therapies have often been denied coverage.

"The medical science will now determine whether we provide coverage for the treatments that reduce complications and improve quality of life for the millions of Medicare beneficiaries who are obese," said Mark McClellan, administrator of the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which oversees health insurance programs for the elderly, disabled and poor.

Some detractors of the change said it is based on unsound science.

"We have a tremendously exaggerated fear of higher than average weight in this culture," said University of Colorado law professor Paul Campos, author of "The Obesity Myth."

"What's partly baseless is this notion that the government needs to intervene to make Americans thinner," Campos said.

HHS said the policy change is not expected to immediately alter Medicare coverage, and no figures were provided on potential costs to taxpayers. The Medicare agency said it may meet this fall to review scientific evidence on various surgical procedures related to obesity.

Message for "Sofiesmom" xpost

2008-07-21 17:26:47

Hi Sofiesmom,

I am trying to find you and I know that I have read messages from you on one of the boards but I don't remember which one. Please e mail me privately. i am getting lots of mail from your address in my bulk mail and I don't know if they are a virus or truly messages from you. This is NOT a scam, I just want to clear up my bulk mail problem.. Thanks! Sue H.

my "port infection"

2008-07-21 11:30:35

peritonitis
Well I went to the Dr on Tuesday and the results came back neg. on
the bacteria...Let's all call me a dunce :) It was the incesion that
was infected not the port.. However I'm still having this pain on the
same side under my belly when I walk, bend, sit, stand or breath
deep. My Dr believes it's from all the inflammation from the
infection. I understand the struggle cuz as soon as I finish one
antibiotic something else happens. I will talk to the Dr again and
ask him about the peritonitis just in case.
Thanks everyone
anaujed (DeeDee)

High erosion rate

2008-07-21 06:13:31

Is it common knowledge out there that the Swedish band has a high
erosion rate?
Thanks,
Debbie

Re: Anyone from New Orleans or nearby?

2008-07-21 05:59:48

If I'm reading your posting right, have you lost 100 pounds since
May? that's amazing. I know i have a lot less to lose but let me
tell you its frustrating as all hell when you haven't lost any
weight for four months.!!!! I just pulled out my Atkins book from
under my bed today... LOL!

Re: Finding the right Mexican doctor.

2008-07-21 00:16:30

The only band approved for use in the US is the Inamed Lap-Band.
You can get I belive up to 4 different choices in bands in Mexico -
3 of which I am familiar with:
Inamed Lap-band
French MidBand
Swedish Band
Of the 3 - my top preference was the MidBand - a couple of things I
liked about it were a lower complication rate (I think its only a
small difference though) - they don't stitch the port to the abdomen
so no worry about torn port stitches, and the band is softer and has
a lower erosion rate. One downside to the midband is that it has a
tendency to 'self fill' apparently some people actually have to
regularly have fill removed - it absorbs fluid from the body
somehow. One guy noted he has fill taken out every 6 months.
My Second preference was the Inamed Band. I actually CHOSE this
band, because I wanted to have as few obsticles as possible
searching for follow up care in the US. As it is, a lot of Dr's
won't do follow up care for people that are not their surgical
patients - so make sure you line up you're aftercare before you get
the surgery. That said - because the Inamed band is the only
approved US band, I knew it would be easier to find a fill dr in the
US with the LapBand than with any other band and aftercare to me was
so important that I chose the Inamed band over the Midband for that
reason alone.
The swedish band apparently has a very high erosion rate - and the
lap-band was the improvement over the swedish band - just as the
MidBand was meant to improve on the Lap-band.
I had Dr. Jose Rodriguez in ACUNA, Mexico - outside of Del Rio,
Texas. He was great. I am doing fine - and was banded 7/1/04.
Good luck!
Tina

Re[2]: [mexicanbandsters] Digest Number 862

2008-07-20 15:45:06

Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 7:25:31 AM, you wrote:
SC
Hanging in there. Today is first day back at work, theoretically full
time. I'll make it close enough to count, since I'm professional, not
on time clock. To say nothing of keeping up with lots of work from
home the last two plus weeks.
I broke the law this morning. I didn't speed, but didn't wear my seat
belt, and am fanatic about them. Would have worn it anyway, despite
presure on the drain spots, if we had a "primary offense" on it here
like WA, OR, and so many other states (and like we should). But since
it is only a ten dollar add on to some other ticket, I took the risk
in all respects. My desk chair feels better than most any chair at
home, so that's good.
SC
SC
SC
SC
SC
Yeah, the doc indicated it would be 7-10 days, and it looks like it
will be an even 21, if all still goes well. I'm still swollen and
still can't get into pants I could before surgery. Hope I don't have
to go buy an "interim pair" back to a larger size, since have kept
vigorously cleaning closet.
As to why, I don't know. Jessie said she had 20 days, and she's not
big. Maybe 5 10, 135, so maybe some of us are just juicier than
others. Or surgical technique. Or whatever. I know that more
activity produces more drainage, and I've overdone it a time or two
and am really trying to not do so. A friend is going to get me my
decaf today, where I usually walk the block to the snakc bar with her
to get it in the student union.
So it goes. I just take my tylenol, and try not to scratch the
itches. I'm VERY sensitive, even to the "safest" paper tape that
holds on the pads that are over the drain outlets. Tried maxipads
there, but they irritated, so have cut up some old tshirts to serve as
"pads". Sort of like the old expression that was literally true in
the olden days, of being "on the rag". Just that for me it is on both
sides right below the ribs. Gail's been doing lots of cold water wash
on the rags and on the tshirts that sometimes still get soaked anyway.
cheers
dan
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Anyone from New Orleans or nearby?

2008-07-20 13:21:32

Hi star, I'm from Baton Rouge. I started a louisiana group, we're still small and kinda quite but hopefully it'll grow. Here is the link.

RE: [mexicanbandsters] Digest Number 862

2008-07-20 07:14:33

Judy: I'm with you on this one.
<I know it sounds foolish but my biggest fear in life is losing my band
Dan: Glad to see you are doing good after the tummy tuck!
Sara: After my tummy tuck, I only had my drains in for two weeks. the first
one was removed in
6 days and the other a week later. I think everyone is different, so you
will never know how long you will have to keep them in. I would do it again
in a heartbeat!
<Wow, Dan....drains for 21 days? Is that average, or because of age or
incision size? I guess size does matter! Your descriptions are making me
think twice about a tummy-tuck. It sounds brutal! You are very brave.
Keep up your spirits. Sara Still In Santa Cruz
Debbie: It depends on where you live. I live in Houston, so I went to
Monterrey (1 hour flight) and had my surgery with Dr. Rumbaut. I heard
nothing but good things about Dr. Kuri, so if your parents live in the
Rosarito area, you might want to go to him and recuperate at their house.
<I hope someone can help. I'm researching all options for the band and
thought I had settled on the Swedish band to be done in Monterrey by Dr.
Rodriguez. However, seeing messages by other
Swedish bandsters, and their displeasure with the band are making me second
guess my decision. Also there are hardly any messages that I've been able
to find about Dr. Rodriguez. I am soooooooo reluctant to go to TJ. My
folks live in the Rosarito area and about died when I told them about going
to TJ. They swear it's too dangerous and have horror story after horror
story about people having botched medical procedures down there. But then
there are so many messages that rave about TJ. I'm so confused about which
band, and TJ vs. Monterrey. I really don't want to have to deal with flying
to Monterrey each time for a fill, what a hassle. Can anyone
out there offer some advice?
Cassie
Dr. Rumbaut
March 1, 2002 - Surgery
July 5, 2002 - Leak Repair
October 3, 2003 - Plastic Surgery
3.4 cc's
238/140/138-145

Anyone from New Orleans or nearby?

2008-07-19 18:44:40

hey everyone-
Just wanted to check on the boards and see if there is anyone from
the New Orleans area. I got banded by Dr. ortiz in Nov of last year
and am really not having much luck with weight loss. I'm also very
new to the New Orleans area and don't know ANYONE. I think perhaps
stress might have a lot to do it. I was just thinking that a little
support to each other or maybe if there's more than one of ya, that
trying to get together a supports group from NOLA and close
surrounding areas might be a good/great thing... Please give me
your feedback or feel free to email me privately as well at
starlynn504@...
thanks all,
Star*

Finding the right Mexican doctor.

2008-07-19 14:52:31

I hope someone can help. I'm researching all options for the band
and thought I had settled on the Swedish band to be done in
Monterrey by Dr. Rodriguez. However, seeing messages by other
Swedish bandsters, and their displeasure with the band are making me
second guess my decision. Also there are hardly any messages that
I've been able to find about Dr. Rodriguez. I am soooooooo
reluctant to go to TJ. My folks live in the Rosarito area and about
died when I told them about going to TJ. They swear it's too
dangerous and have horror story after horror story about people
having botched medical procedures down there. But then there are so
many messages that rave about TJ. I'm so confused about which band,
and TJ vs. Monterrey. I really don't want to have to deal with
flying to Monterrey each time for a fill, what a hassle. Can anyone
out there offer some advice?

Re: Plastic surgery update XPOST

2008-07-19 09:31:56

Wow, Dan....drains for 21 days? Is that average, or because of age
or incision size? I guess size does matter! Your descriptions are
making me think twice about a tummy-tuck. It sounds brutal! You are
very brave. Keep up your spirits. Sara Still In Santa Cruz
down 95, 40 to go

Re: [mexicanbandsters] feeling sick

2008-07-19 04:18:40

Monday, July 12, 2004, 1:21:17 PM, you wrote:
cac
cac
cac
cac
cac
cac
cac
When was your surgery? Where and with whom? What were the two
surgeries? You should only expect to lose one to two pounds a week,
so you're doing ok. You don't NEED protein supplement as long as you
can eat regular food. Eat real protein like meat, beans, nonfat milk,
fish, and so forth. As to weak, it takes a couple of months before
all of the anesthesia crap gets out of your body. Really. And
sometimes we're bothered by stress or other things in our lives. Let
me know more and I'll try to help more.
You can call if you want, 208-283-7711. If it is a toll call for you,
I'll call back, as my minutes are all the same price.
dan
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Plastic surgery update XPOST

2008-07-18 22:58:21

Well, as expected, when we went to the doc's at 730 this morning, they
said I was still draining too much, about 75 ml per day. But better
than it has been. Next appointment is next Monday noon when they
fully expect to remove the drains. That'll make 21 days almost to the
minute from the surgery, which will beat Jessie's record by a day I
guess. So I'm the new record holder for being juicy, perhaps. Better
than the "marble poop award" I figure.
Anyway, he did give me the required note saying I can go back to work
tomorrow full time, light duty, no lifting or stairs, etc, and I plan
to do so. After leaving the doc we stopped for a little breakfast at
Starbucks, then went to my office to turn in my paperwork and say
hello to a few people. I was particularly attractive in my tshirt and
sweats with drains in my pockets with tubes showing from waistline
into the pockets. But it was good to see friends and colleagues for
an hour or so. Now I'm home and going to take a nap.
Best to all....this too shall pass.
dan
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

SAGB

2008-07-18 18:48:34

I have had a Swedish for 4 1/2 years, if I had one thing I could change
it would be that I would choose an Inamed band. When I was banded
neither band was approved in the US and the research I had done at that
time indicated both bands were equal so I choose the Swedish band. I
went back to my surgeon in Mexico for all follow up fills because so
many of the US Dr.s were not familiar with Iopamiro, the fill solution
of the Swedish band. I also had frequent bouts of my band self
tightening so finally last year I went to Mexico and we flushed my band
of Iopamiro and I have saline as my fill material and that seems to work
much better for me, no problems in more than a year. My other concern
is that so many of the people that were banded with Swedish bands at the
same time I was have eroded. I personally know of 18 eroded bands,
all of them Swedish, because of that I do fly back to Mexico every year
for an annual endoscopy just to ease my mind that my band is indeed in
good shape.
I know it sounds foolish but my biggest fear in life is losing my band,
I would rather be dead than go back to my pre-band fat life. And I do
know there are many different manufacturers of bands out there and any
of them can take you where you want to go if you work your band hard
enough. But because of the higher erosion rate and lack of familiarity
on the part of US surgeons, I would certainly choose an Inamed band if I
had to do it all over again.
Saludos,
Judy
3/17/00
Dr. Sanchez
225/135

feeling sick

2008-07-18 10:44:25

Dan

I was wondering if you had a period of time after surgery where you felt sick. I exspected it time. no energy, weakness and loss of mussle tone. no energy. i wonder if people get alergic to the band or is it due to having back to back surgeries. one in march one in may.

just wanted you opioion. i am taking protein suppliment and have only lost 20 lbs.

Thanks

Debby

Re: Anyone have surgery with Dr. Arturo Rodriguez in Monterrey?

2008-07-18 02:17:34

I guess I am looking for experience with this doctor...good or bad
[hopefully good]. My wife and I had chosen this doctor for her
surgery coming up, but I am not finding many people that have used
him.

Re: port infection

2008-07-17 19:41:06

I was banded 6/3/04 and have been battling a kidney infection and
port infection since banding, the infection keeps returning after
antibiotics. What has your doctor said about your infection?
melissa

RE: [mexicanbandsters] Anyone have surgery with Dr. Arturo Rodriguez in Monterrey?

2008-07-17 15:07:11

Hi Alan,

I had mine done with Dr. Rodriguez. I had no problems with my surgery. Everything went fine. I had my surgery on March 5^th2004. What did you want to know?

Rebecca

3/05/04

200/165/130

port infection

2008-07-17 07:04:52

Hi Everyone,
I'm a post-op 6/5/4 and up to know I've had a UTI and now my port is
infected. Has anyone had a port infection? The weight is coming off
but I just want to be rid of these infections...
anaujed

Anyone have surgery with Dr. Arturo Rodriguez in Monterrey?

2008-07-17 05:20:09

I am just curious as to whether anyone has had their SAGB done with
Dr. Arturo Rodriguez?
Thanks in advance,
Alan

research

2008-07-16 16:51:13

Jeff, like some have said, I would do more research on the Lapband.I
think it will ease your mind. MY OPINION...I would not let them band
me with anything other than Inamed Lapband. I know this is the only
one Doctors in my area will do the fills. I also considered DR Joya
before my banding. After much research, I changed my mind. I am so
very happy I did. I went to Monterrey and Doctor Rumbaut did the
surgery plus he repaired my hernia. There are good Doctors in TJ and
Monterrey as Dan said. Please read everything you can about DR
Joya...Advice from an ole lady.....God Bless....Ima
DR Rumbaut 5/4/04
Mexico

Re: New to group, have a date, I am very scared!!!!

2008-07-16 12:10:25

Jeff,
Welcome to the group. I do not know this doctor, but that does not
mean he's not a good surgeon.
You seem very scared and I would recomend that anyone getting
elective surgery take time to get information. Lack of information
can make any one fearful. Check out the Inamed website on risks,
here is the website address:
http://www.inamed.com/products/obesity/us/patient/lapband/risk.html
Barbara

New to group, have a date, I am very scared!!!!

2008-07-16 08:21:48

Tonight I just joined this group, I have a surgery date for July
31st in Mexico with the Bajanor Medical Center, Dr. Ramos Kelly, if
anyone has heard anything negetive please let me know, I did do alot
of research but have found very little on Dr. Ramos Kelly, however
they claim he has done over 2000 lap bands and with only 4 problems,
none life threatening but the usual problems, slippage, erosion. I
am first scared about going to Mexico to have this done, I cannot
afford to have the Drs. that everyone is talking about do this for
me, my cost is $8000 and that includes everything , including
airfare for myself and my wife. I am also scared that I will not
WAKE UP, any advice will be truly appreciated................Jeff

Dr joya in Vallarta mexico

2008-07-16 04:45:40

Hello:
Am new to group. been investigating drs in mexico. I am living in
vallarta area, so vallarta or guadalajara would be most convenient.
Ther is a Dr. joya her in vallarta that appears to be well thought
of and i am looking for ny comments good bad or othewize about him
or any other suggestions cause he isnt the cheapest in mexico for
certian -- about 10k which includes free lifetime fills.
any advice appreciaed.
jeff

Re: FILLS FOR THE MID BAND PATIENTS

2008-07-16 00:37:06

Great question!!
If you find anything out please let me know!! I am having the same
problem. There is NO way I will go back to Mexico. I have a line
on a place in northern AZ but have to check them out. The mid band
is definitly the best choice and the safest.

Re: [mexicanbandsters] today is the day

2008-07-15 17:31:31

good luck, let us know about your journey.....it will be fine.
cowboystyle_donnie <cowboystyle_donnie@...
here waiting for time to pass,alone a bit scared....guess
that is normal.Dr. lopez,hospital angeles.....anyone else looking in
going today?...good luck to me and all who head out.dp

Re: Doing LB South of the Border!

2008-07-15 08:20:33

click on "links" and go to Lori's Lap Band Website for lots of good info and
photos on Dr.
Rumbaut.

Only a week left

2008-07-15 05:43:37

Only a week away! I can't believe it already! Robin and her hubby
will be there! Dr. Ortiz is coming, even though his wife is 7 months
pregnant... he is flying in Saturday afternoon only to leave Sunday;
but he didn't want to miss it. We have been busy with our plastic
surgeons, our counselors, our surgeons, our exercises gurus, to come
up with a great weekend. We will be taking registeration at the door
for anyone that is coming. Price for the whole shing ding is $180,
which includes Friday night Sock Hop with Mashed Potato Martini Bar,
Saturday Breakfast, lunch and Gala, Sunday Brunch, all seminars, and
events. We have a Saturday only price (due to very large demand!)
which will cover all events and food on Saturday of $120.00 THere is
also a companion ticket which only covers Friday Night and Saturday
Night events (so they can come party with us!).
If you haven't registered, PLEASE SEND US AN EMAIL ASAP with the
following:
Your Name
Email address:
Phone:
Banding Status:
If you have photos to share:
If you are a full/Saturday only/Companion Registerant
And bring either cash(preferred) or check to the registeration desk.
If you don't email us, or sign up at the website; you won't have a
goody bag, and we also want to make sure there is food for everyone.
Speaking of, there will be food for ALL stages of banding, so don't
worry.
Of course, if you need a room; check our website for the phone
number, and call ASAP. Our block got extended, and you can get a
room for only $105 a night (they are now regularly $165!). We look
forward to seeing... well, less of more of you there!!!!
Sharon and Donna
www.floridabandsterbash.com
floridabandsters@...

FILLS FOR THE MID BAND PATIENTS

2008-07-15 02:38:08

Are there any doctors in the US that will work on MID BAND patients
for fills?

Dr. Billy

2008-07-14 09:52:27

I want to thank the Bandsters group for the lead on fills in the USA.
I drove to Vetura California (about 2 hours from my home) to met Dr.
Billy Helmuth for a possible fill. I arrived a doctor Billy's with
no information about my band size or the cc I had at my fill in
Mexico. Dr. Billy had no problem finding my port without x-ray and
he determined I could have 1 cc after he determined how much was
currently in my band. Dr. Billy talked with me for about an hour and
the charge was 300.00 with the fill. Thanks again Bandsters, Dawn

Kimberly and photos

2008-07-14 04:48:16

Hi Kimberly,
I saw your photos and would like to talk to you about how you have
progressed. I had my band on June 5th and I'm still having difficulty
getting used to it. (moving)
grandm

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Digest Number 855

2008-07-14 03:53:57

Hi There, Good Choice! The number to call is 1 877 DRORTIZ.
You should speak to Sandy to schedule your surgery. There
have been some changes made for the good. I wish you all
the best with your surgery.

Re: [mexicanbandsters] DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW I CAN FIND ROBIN (DR. ORTIZ)?

2008-07-13 21:29:08

Hi Gina, You can try 203-467-0720. Robin is a Sweetie...she will give you all the info. you need.....Gail
ginalbe <ginalbe@...

Hi All,
I am new here and I hope you can help me. My friend and I, Lisa are wanting to
schedule the lapband surgery together. Her friend told us that she was well taken
care of by Robin at Dr. Ortiz' office. I have been told Robin isn't with Dr. Ortiz. Does
anyone know how I can get a hold of her? Is she with another Doctor? Please help!
We want to schedule surgery soon, but really would feel better if Robin could give us
her expertise about the entire process. (I am sure there are other excellent
representatives, but this friend absolutely credits Robin for her experience.) I
apologize if I sound just like a Nervous Nelly!
Thanks!
Gina

Re: DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW I CAN FIND ROBIN (DR. ORTIZ)?

2008-07-13 20:16:29

Robin scheduled my surgery as well, when I was communicating with her
prior to the surgery, she mentioned that she and her family where
moving to Florida. This might be taking place as we speak and that
may be why you are unable to reach her.
Meanwhile I would recommend Dr Ortiz's office staff to any of my
friends, you will be very well taken care of!
Regards,
Becky
6.17.04
Dr Ortiz

Fill in Monterrey

2008-07-13 06:52:44

I will be in Monterrey for a fill with Dr Rumbaut July 11th and 12th. Will
anyone else be there at that time?
Betsy
05/30/01

DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW I CAN FIND ROBIN (DR. ORTIZ)?

2008-07-13 04:14:04

Hi All,
I am new here and I hope you can help me. My friend and I, Lisa are wanting to
schedule the lapband surgery together. Her friend told us that she was well
taken
care of by Robin at Dr. Ortiz' office. I have been told Robin isn't with Dr.
Ortiz. Does
anyone know how I can get a hold of her? Is she with another Doctor? Please
help!
We want to schedule surgery soon, but really would feel better if Robin could
give us
her expertise about the entire process. (I am sure there are other excellent
representatives, but this friend absolutely credits Robin for her experience.)
I
apologize if I sound just like a Nervous Nelly!
Thanks!
Gina

Re: How are you feeling Dan?

2008-07-13 02:34:05

Sunday, July 4, 2004, 9:47:43 AM, you wrote:
s
Hi dear Sara, and all others.
s
Well, better than shit at the moment. But not great. Very stiff in
all abdominal area. Still swollen extensively in upperabdomen.
s
s
Oh yeah. Much worse. The band was a piece of cake. I've been
taking pix, as has gail, but we've not got them on the web yet. Maybe
this ocming week.
s
s
No tight clothing. Had a very tight "girdle" for twentyfour hours,
but that was only because right after surgery they said I coughted and
broke some stitches. Sort of a fourteeen inch wide velcro band thing
that was awful. tosssed it after a day, with their permission.
Biggest pain is in my ass. After losing some 140 pouinds total, I've
got a tailbone that gets verytiredof sittingon it. Just an hour ago
gail bought me one of those donut pillows designed for folks with
episiotomies or hemorrhoids. It is a lifesaver so far. We'll see.
I really hate the drugs as they completely fog up my mind, and fug up
my mind, and give me nightmares. So I take as few as possible. They
did lots of stitches in my rectus abdomimnus, so those hurt too.
There is a U shaped incisioon from high above each hip bone done to
just above the pubis, From there there is a vertical incision that
goes up about six or eight inches, thru the new/transplanted belly
buton. Some hot young things in bikinis would think it was ugly, but I
don't give a damn.
s
s
s
s
s
I understand and represent that. I'm plenty tight, almost too tight,
and still strgugggle with wnating to cram thru stuff like mcflurries
and blizzards and ice cream and crap. and of the last three months I'v
head almost no exercise due to so much travel and work pressure. Not
making excuses, and I'll get back to it.....just will be slow and a
few weeks at the barest minimum.
s
s
s
s
s
s
Yup, the brilliant Ms.Patricia is right on the learning curve. Some
of us just curve off in the wrong directions at times....the road we
shouldn't have taken and all that. But I also know how much healthier
and happier than a couple years ago we both are now, and how much
better we'll be in the future, even if we don't reach absolute
perfecion. Right now with my swelling, part of my belly looks great,
some looks like a pile of shit. Oh well...
s
Guess I already answered that, huh?
I hope to be back to the Monterey area in November for a conference,
and maybe I'll just drive down the new Vette....too early to tell.
First, we have to pick it up n Dallas in four weeks, and drive it home
via Albuquerque where we'll visit my daughter, and Salt Lake where
we'll visit my sister and her family. Or somethinglike that.
hugs to all, nad especially to sara and dave
dan
s
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

To all seafood lovers- a scary FYI Xpost

2008-07-12 16:03:00

Hi everyone,
I just spent yesterday evening in the ER with my daughter and I learned something about tuna that I think you should all know.
I had 2 nice , frozen tuna steaks that I cooked for our dinner and we enjoyed . About 20 minutes after dinner, Merrill(my daughter) started to turn bright red(like a very bad sunburn). Even the whites of her eyes were red. Her pulse was racing, her temp was sub-normal,she had a severe headache,her pupils were dilated, and she was getting shakey.
I called her Dr. who said to call 911 which I did. The paramedics sent us to the ER and the doc there thought it was food poisoning. He asked what she had eaten and when I said fresh tuna, he told us she had scromboid poisoning. The doc said this occurs in fishes of the tuna family such as mackerel, mahi mahi ,albacore, and sardines.It is from a toxin produced in the fish soon after it is caught if the fish is not properly chilled.
You can get sick from fish that is frozen, fresh, smoked,well-cooked , or even canned if the toxin has developed .I bought the fish frozen and kept it frozen until I cooked it. It never smelled or tasted "bad". The piece of fish I ate was cooked it the same pan but was packaged separately. She got the "lucky piece". She got treatment at the hospital and is fine this morning. I went to Google and got more info from the sites I found. Needless to say, no more tuna for us! Sue H.

Florida Bandster Bash Update

2008-07-12 09:28:23

Hi all. Time is running out. Only 14 more days till the bash. We
are soooooooooo excited and we hope that you are also. If you
haven't registered at the hotel, please do so asap and let them know
that you are with the Florida Bandster Bash so that you can get the
special room rate. Also, if you are planning on going just for the
Saturday events, go to www.floridabandsterbash.com and register
there. Just put in all your information. When you do that, we get a
list of names so that we will know to expect you at registration that
morning. You can pay when you get there either by check or cash.
The price for all of Saturdays events are $120.00. You can purchase
your t-shirt then and also your mask for the gala if you don't have
one. But the most important thing is that we have your name. For
those of you that have registered if you put on there that you would
like to send in your before and after pics so that we may include
them in our slide show at the gala, please forward those to us at
floridabandsters@... so that Donna can start putting that
together. There is one more thing that I want to pass along to you
that I just found out about today. At our vendor hall we are going
to have a Mary Kay Consultant there, along with other vendors, and
she has graciously volunteered to give 5 lucky people free facials
and makeup application for the gala that night. That will begin at
3:30 on Saturday. At the end of our last speaker, I will announce
that names of the 5 lucky people. We will also have a hair stylist
on hand so if you would like her to do your hair for that evening she
will be available to do so.
We have a ton of great things in store for you.
Can't wait to see ya there and if anyone has any questions, please
let me know.
Sharon

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Doing LB South of the Border!

2008-07-12 01:49:31

Hi Sharon, I had my surgery by Dr. Rumbaut. The entire cost for the surgery was $10,500.00, that was in May. I felt more comfortable with Dr. Rumbaut, he called me at home and spent a considerable amount of time on the phone with me, he came highly recommended by a number of people in the groups, he's done over 2000 surgeries, he does very high BMI's, he helped train other doctors for this surgery here in the states and he has the band himself. :-) His staff and the staff at the hospital are fantastic, I've never had care as good in the states. I have his and Dr. Diaz's cell phone numbers and would feel very comfortable with calling them if I needed to.

I've seen on one of the boards that a few people have had the surgery done by him cheaper since then so his fee must me negotiable. I never once questioned his fee, the surgery here in baton rouge would have cost $29,000.00 so that was much much cheaper for me. I had the money and I'm very pleased and do not regret the 10,500 at all.

Good luck on your research, keep us posted. Tasha Coco

Dr. Rumbaut, Monterrey

5/25/04

427/362/180

Doing LB South of the Border!

2008-07-12 01:36:10

Hello,
I am a newbie here, so please bear with me! I am researching getting
a LB done in Mexico, because the cost here in WA state is just out of
reach!
I have a few questions and I hope someone can help me. So far, I
have heard of several DRs in Mexico but I am trying to find out more
about them from people who have been thru it.
1: Dr Ramos-Kelly. He works at the Bajanor Obesity Center in Tijuana
Mexico.
2: Dr. Sanchez. He works for ready4achange.com/ in Monterrey Mexico.
3: DR. Rumbaut. He works out of Belighter.com also in Monterrey
Mexico. (He also seems to be the most expensive of the 3... only a
few grand less than having it done locally!) ouch!
Ok, do any of these names ring a bell? Or worse, put up a red flag?
I would appreciate any info as I am seriously considering this and I
am worried about how it would work out; going to a foreign country
for surgery etc. I have more questions, like how is it once you are
there etc, but I figure I should get the DR question out of the way
first.
Any advice gladly appreciated! Please Email me with info!
Sharon in WA

Mid Atlantic Support Group Meeting July 10th

2008-07-11 20:48:03

Attn all Maryland, Phili, NJ, WV, DC and Virginia
Bandsters. (and anyone else interested)
We are trying to create a support network like the PNW
has. It can only be accomplished with your help.
Let's get together and support each other at the
Friendly Farm Restaurant near Baltimore MD on July 10
at 2:00 PM. It's on a 200 acre working farm and there is a duck
pond for the children to go to.
5 of us are committed to going and I hope we can raise
that number a bit. It would be fun to have our own
bash.
If anyone wants to bring clothes to pass down (or is
it up) please let's do so! We can swap clothes after
the meal while we are at the duck pond. Families and wanna be
bandster friends are invited.
The address is Foreston Road North of Mt.Carmel Road,
Upperco, MD 21155.
Their phone number is 410-239-7400. It is off of
Interstate 83 at exit 27. The prices are moderate.
Please send me an email to rsvp dochinka99-bands @

Re: fill Doctors in Salt Lake

2008-07-11 12:21:16

Hello Rebecca!
I live in Denver and you may want to check that price on the doctor's
you mentioned in CO, I think it has gone up - WAY up.
I use a Doctor in Scottsbluff NE, Dr Halloway, he is GREAT!
Scottsbluff is about 1 1/12 hours from Cheyenne WY. Scottsbluff is
probably around the same amount of drive time from UT as Canyon City
CO (where Dr Brown is).
Dr Halloway's prices are $91 for the first fill and $52 from then on
after. Great prices! His number is #800-321-6790.
He takes patients banded out of the USA.
Good luck!
Lisa
Dr Kuri
2-16-04
-55 lbs

RE: [mexicanbandsters] fill Doctors in Salt Lake

2008-07-11 06:19:08

HI, Margarita,

I live in Roy Utah. I already contacted the Doctors who do the banding here in Utah, None of them will do fills for people who were banded in Mexico. I asked the group about a month ago for help finding one close and here is what I got.Dr.s Snow and BrownI Colorado. Phone 719-275-4061 $250 for a fill. I haven't called yet, I got my first fill in Mexico. But I plan to use them when I need another.

Maybe we could go together. I believe they are in Denver, it didn't say in the post.

Hope this helps you. Rebecca

198/165/130

03/05/04

Dr. Rodriguez, Monterrey Mexico

fill Doctors in Salt Lake

2008-07-11 00:43:49

Does anyone know of a fill doctor in Salt Lake, UT that will do Mexi-
bandsters?
Thanks for any help,
Margie

Re: RE:heartburn

2008-07-10 09:43:10

Thanks Fran for your advice I'm calling the Dr. again to see if they
can squeeze me in a.s.a.p. water seems to be working today i have
almost no pain but i don't want it to come back

RE:heartburn

2008-07-10 05:39:47

From: "didibirdie2002" <didibirdie2002@...
Subject: heart burn
<<<<< But the past few weeks have been miserable. I believe I have
heart burn. I've tried Pepto and it doesnt work. I get this burst of
gas coming up my throat and then it lingers for a few seconds and
goes back. It hurts so bad. I can't get into to my dr. here who does
these surgeries until three weeks. What could be wrong and how can i
fix it??? I'm in such pain and i'm afraid to eat for fear of more
gas. if i lay down on my back or stomach i wont have any pains. also
it seems to me that food goes down a lot harder in the past few
weeks. even if i chew really really well it hurts. things like soup
and noodles go down easy but meat and poultry hurt badly. and this
just started recently. Can anyone help me? It hurts so much!!!:(
I have had this problem, and I am presently unfilled so I can heal. First
try to get into a Dr. Now I will tell you what I was told by my Dr. He put
me on Nexium, tums, and Gaviscon. Yes, all three, they each do something
different. You will need a prescription for the Nexium, but you could start
now with the tums and gaviscon. The Gaviscon creates a barrier to help keep
the reflux from coming back up into the throat and burning it. Go back to
liquids for a while and then soft easy foods, to help give your throat time
to heal. No acid or spicy foods for a while, and watch the caffine and
chocolate all of these foods could make your situation worse. It has taken
me over six weeks to heal and the swelling from the constant irratation to
subside. I believe that that you are swollen from the reflux and it could
swell you up enough to cause liquids to keep from goiong down then you will
need I.V.'s to re-hydrate you, I am speaking from experience.
Good luck to you, and I hope this helps and you can get some relief until
you can get into see a Dr. Keep us informed as to how you are doing.
Fran Whitmeyer
Mexico
7/2003
_

heart burn

2008-07-09 22:39:20

I had my band placed on 9/26/03
in Dec i had the port removed becuase it was infected. I haven't put
it back in yet because I am scared to be cut again. Anyways I have
lost 34 lbs. I haven't gained any back but I haven't lost any more
either. I know its my own fault because I haven't put the port back
in. But the past few weeks have been miserable. I believe I have
heart burn. I've tried Pepto and it doesnt work. I get this burst of
gas coming up my throat and then it lingers for a few seconds and
goes back. It hurts so bad. I can't get into to my dr. here who does
these surgeries until three weeks. What could be wrong and how can i
fix it??? I'm in such pain and i'm afraid to eat for fear of more
gas. if i lay down on my back or stomach i wont have any pains. also
it seems to me that food goes down a lot harder in the past few
weeks. even if i chew really really well it hurts. things like soup
and noodles go down easy but meat and poultry hurt badly. and this
just started recently. Can anyone help me? It hurts so much!!!:(

Re: [mexicanbandsters] heart burn

2008-07-09 21:40:53

Where are you from maybe I can send you the name and number of a Doctor who
can help you because sounds like you really need to get into see a surgeon
soon.

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Just curious!!!!!

2008-07-09 20:32:25

Hey Julie,

The first number (327 in your example) is our start weight, or heaviest weight before surgery.

The second number (263) is our current weight.

Pretty sure you figured this out by now but the last number (199) is our ultimate goal.

Don

451/358/200
Julie <julie@...

Just out of schere curiousity......Since I am fairly new to the
group, I see some people with numbers after their signature....example
327/263/199......
What exactly does it mean?
Julie

Just curious!!!!!

2008-07-09 09:34:11

Just out of schere curiousity......Since I am fairly new to the
group, I see some people with numbers after their signature....example
327/263/199......
What exactly does it mean?
Julie

sliming correction

2008-07-09 03:59:43

I meant "now familiar" not "not familiar" Of course I'm sure
you all knew that.
Tasha

sliming

2008-07-09 01:57:58

Well, I am not familar with sliming, first hand. I just finished
lunch or should I say lunch just finished me. Man, that was awful,
first time I've thrown up since I started eating solids. I guess
that Manderine chicken was a no no. Sigh, I'm still hurting. Oh
well, live and learn I guess.
Tasha
Dr. Rumbaut
427/363/180

bloating

2008-07-08 12:59:56

Hi,
Any suggestions on bloating. I'll try the sleep aid...It seams that I
can't even suck my stomach in and it's bloated all the time, at
present I'm taking the gas-x and I walk.
grandm

Anyone going to Monterrey July 5th to 8th?

2008-07-08 05:07:41

I will be going back to Dr. Rumbaut in Monterrey Mexico from July 5th
to July 8th so he can check my band for a leak. I was just curious
if anyone else will be there at that time as I am going alone and
would love to have someone to talk to while there. Feel free to
email me privately.
Thanks,
Suzanne
Cleveland, OH
10-10-03

Re: [mexicanbandsters] sleep trouble

2008-07-08 04:42:46

You may have just increased your metablism due to the changing eatting patterns. try melatonion a natural sleeping aid. it has the same ingredient as warm milk.

or call your Dr and see if he has any suggestions.

Debby

sleep trouble

2008-07-08 02:16:47

I am new and have had my band by Dr Ortiz I was wondering if anyone
is having trouble sleeping comfortably. I'm almost 4 weeks post opt
grandm

Re: Regarding USA Dr's who will do fills for Mexican and non surgery patients

2008-07-07 11:21:46

Here's the scoop on Dr. Jessee,
I was banded by Dr. Kuriback in March. Last week I got a fill with
Dr. Jessee in Largo Florida. She couldn't have been nicer or more
professional. It cost $550 ($200 to Dr. Jessee and $350 to the
hospital for the fluro). She said she requires the first fill with
her be done by fluro then after that, she can do fills or unfills in
her office without fluro for $200. She got my port on the first
stick. She withdrew 1.2cc (Dr. Kuri put in 1.8 but she said you
always loose a little) and then she filled me until I was completely
closed off, and then withdrew a little fluid so I'd have a good
fill. I ended up with 2.6cc! Dr. Jessee will only fill INAMED
lapbands and she requires you bring a surgical report stating you
have an Inamed band.
When she found out I had driven 4.5 hours to get to her, she
recommended another physician that was closer to my home. Then she
sent him an email telling him about me! How nice!
Beth
Dr.Kuri 3/2/04
224.5/193/140

Re: Im new help!

2008-07-07 04:13:00

Thanks sooo much to all of you that have responded to me request for
help. This is the first time I have felt not alone since my surgery.
I believe the doctor did give me a couple of pages of instructions
before I left the hospital but I must have left them there. I really
like my doctor and don't want to blame him for my inadequecies. I do
know that he did say soft foods would be fine after a week, I just
didn't know what soft foods meant. I did stop with the tuna it just
didn't feel right. I am just concerned about the nutritional value of
the food I am eating. The protein smoothies are an excellent
suggestion. I will go get one of those tonight. I am so glad I was
referred to this sight. Thank You, Thank you!!!
Brandy

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Fills.......

2008-07-06 22:17:53

Hi Julie! Where are you coming from? I live near L.A. and need to get a fill too but can't drive. I CAN help with expenses!! Maybe my husband could go to. He does not have a band but he is a cop and can speak Spanish....both attributes could be helpful. Email me with your info please. Sue H
Julie <julie@...

Hello everyone.........
I am getting ready to schedule my first fill with my doctor
(Dr.Ortiz), in TJ. I will be going around the end of July. Anybody
going that same time would be great. Email me and let me
know.....Looking for a buddy or two or three......teeheehee!! My
husband can't go with.
Have a wonderful day!!
Julie

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Digest Number 845

2008-07-06 17:51:20

Brandy,
I don't know of any doctor that allows their patients to eat solid foods
after one week. Did you get instructions on what you can and cannot have
the first several weeks? Who was your doctor? If you have a lot of
questions you should be able to reach your doctor. Are you not able to do
that?
Suzanne

Re: [mexicanbandsters] Im new help!

2008-07-06 15:30:22

Brandy, my doctor told me to stay on liquids 2 weeks after surgery then 2 weeks of soft stuff after that (potatoes, pasta, rice, etc.) The chest pain is gas, take GasX or mylanta. Congratulations on the Band!! Tasha

Fills.......

2008-07-06 07:23:48

Hello everyone.........
I am getting ready to schedule my first fill with my doctor
(Dr.Ortiz), in TJ. I will be going around the end of July. Anybody
going that same time would be great. Email me and let me
know.....Looking for a buddy or two or three......teeheehee!! My
husband can't go with.
Have a wonderful day!!
Julie

Im new help!

2008-07-06 04:03:09

Hello! I just had my lap band put in last friday, that's one week. I
really liked the doctor but feel I don't have enough after care help.
I have so many questions. What is the best way to get rid of this
chest pain? I think it is indigestion it feels like a bubble in my
rib cage area, I take prilosec and tums daily, any other suggestions?
Is this normal? I am starting to eat solid foods, tuna what else
should I try? Is sugar bad? I eat yogurt, drink soy latte's at
Starbucks and sweetened iced tea am I okay. I know I can't drink
alcohol, soda's spicy food etc. but that is the extent of the
information I received. I feel like I am hungry all the time will I
know when I have eaten enough? When should I get my first fill and
what is flouro?
I am going to see Dr. Dobson next week I hope he can help me with
some follow up support. If you can help me at all please any help
would be welcome.
Thanks,
Brandy

Regarding USA Dr's who will do fills for Mexican and non surgery patients

2008-07-05 17:23:49

Hi there!
Regarding USA Dr's and Medical Professionals who will do fills for
Mexican and out of state banded patients. I am getting a very
reliable, up to date, easily navigable (by State) database going on
Mexican Bandsters, it's such a valuable resource for all of us. But
we need to make it better and longer, and we need your help; so if
you had your surgery in another state or another country, and you
have managed to get a fill here in the USA (or you know of someone
who has.) Please let me have the State and name of the Dr./Medical
Professional that did your fill, and if possible the phone number and
price, but at the very least the name and State.
I know there are lists of fill Drs on other boards, and I am in the
process of checking them out for viability; so far I have found that
a lot of them will only fill their own patients.
If you have a "live" one, please add it to the database or email it
to me privately at: iamyuneek@... and I will add it. ianyuneek@
cox.net
Thanks!
Sylvia
Dr Kuri

Re: Someone Somewhere! x-post

2008-07-05 16:33:12

I was banded by Dr. K also (12/5/03). I get my fills done in Baton
Rouge by Curtis and Wells - EVERY fill is done under fluoro - they
don't do it without it. They are $350 a pop and do fills one Friday
a month. You'll need to talk to Dana @ (225) 673-8983. I'm the
other side of New Orleans but it's not a bad drive and relatively
easy to find.
Good Luck,
Laura

Re: [SmartBand] Someone Somewhere! x-post

2008-07-05 11:03:46

Drive up to Paris TX. Texas is big, but still less than a day's
drive. www.rrvr.net $250 with fluoro and experienced interventional
radiologists. One of them has a band himself. You'll find them on
the database on MexicanBandsters. They do people from Mississippi,
etc. And they did me on a trip down there, too.
dan
Thursday, June 24, 2004, 1:29:31 PM, you wrote:
smc
smc
smc
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61