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Due to the Rosarito Bash (Sept 10-12) there will not be an OSCB meeting this
month. But there will be the second Inland Empire Meeting at the Tyler Mall Food
Court. It is very easy to find, just off the 91 FWY at Tyler exit go North (you
can see the mall off the freeway), go to the back of the mall just south of
Pennys, you will see the outside dining area upstairs, enter their at the arch
that says Tyler Mall and there is a escalator just inside the door. Go to the
second floor. And you are there.
Any and all are welcome, any Doctors patient, banded, pre-banded, banded
support people ect, you do not have to be from the Inland Empire, you can drive
as far as you want to get to us.
I will post this info on the OSCB Board, Dr. Kuri Board & Spotlight Board.
If you know of any other bandster boards to post this to please do not hesitate
to do so. The more the merrier. Our first meeting was a success with 12 in
attendance.
DATE: Saturday September 4th, at 10am (the Mall is open)
I will be the lady with the balloon.
Hope to see someone, other than me, there.
Lesa
220/150/153
1-18-03
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Hi Everyone!
I am up in the middle of the night with a ear infection and I am
wondering which antibiotics (if any) are safe for the band? I have a
feeling that if I go to emergency that they will have no idea.
Thank you!

Hey Deb Jones- I was just in Las Vegas-my mom lives there. Do you have a
before and after pic? How did u pick your doc for the tummy tuck?
Kristi

I have talked to some of these Drs and I can almost
gaurantee you that the huge fees are not just for "a
fill." It includes your first visit which is billed as
a consult, then they may (rightly or wrongly) insist
that you join their support group, and they may always
use flouro, and it may even include more than 1 fill.
That's why I always think its always a good idea to
call and ask.
Sylvia

In a message dated 8/21/2004 7:44:42 AM Central Standard Time,

hi dan..i disagree with you..dr. kurian. ren and george fielding are all under
500 and that includes the first visit of course that's without fluro.. those
are all new york city hospitals in manhatten. the problem comes when they want
to do an endoscope or gi and as a self pay you may need to mortgage the house.
however, they may have gone higher but never to that amount.
when i went to dr. kurian for my first fill i paid 200 for the first office
visit..the fill would have cost 150 but she wasn't able to fill me and did not
charge. had i continued with her the fills would have been 150. i now go back
to mexico for all my aftercare. i'm retired and do mini vacations when there.
judy m. in ny

I think maybe the obesity control center site was down for
maintenence before, but I was able to log on over there just now. I
was a so-called 'lightweight'at the time of surgery (32 BMI) and have
lost 60+ lbs, now a 22 BMI, so pretty close to goal. My port is
actually visible when I'm standing up, looks like I have a weird
extra rib or something. I'm having a tummy tuck in October in
Brazil. My surgeon is going to be here (in Las Vegas) in a few weeks
and I want to have my ducks in a row as to what Dr. O thinks before
my in-person consult with him, to see if I should get the port moved
at the same time... I sure don't want to do it twice if I don't have
to. I've worked hard to get the 'bikini belly' back and the tiny
scars that are my surgical badges I don't mind, but the weird ping-
pong ball poking out of my abdomen is bound to ruin the
effect..LOL!!! Deb Jones

Friday, August 20, 2004, 9:18:49 PM, you wrote:
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A great deal of the variation in fill prices depends on location. I've
heard of a big city east coast doc charging 1400, which if it were in
a NYC hospital and had to include paying for the fluoro to the
hospital, might not be that bad.
C
Well, that's as cheap as I've heard of. I pay 100 in TJ with fluoro,
and the fee is to the lab for the fluoro, as my doc's services for
lifetime are included in the banding. I've paid 250 for a fill with
fluoro in the US, in a small town in TX. But that's cheap too, by
most standards.
And if you have to go a long way to get a cheap fill, or the provider
isn't very good, then that fill isn't so cheap.
I'm not defending a thousand for a fill, but like so many things in
life, it "all depends".
dan
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

$1000.00 for a fill? That is outrageous. Can't someone out there help that poor
lady find a decent doctor that isn't out to gouge the patients?
I pay $100 for fill with or without fluoroscope.
Sorry had to add my two cents on outlandish prices for those of us who are self
pay and had to go out of the country for the band.
Cheryl
2/16/04
-26"

First off I want to thank everyone who has sent me their photo's so far. Below
is a list of all that I have (if you sent them and they are not on the list then
I haven't received them... Please resend)
Secondly, I NEED MORE... Please don't think that you haven't lost enough or
aren't far enough along... I have newbies in here that are only down a few
pounds (they just sent their "before" pics) as well as us slower losers in the
bunch (including myself). Every pound is a victory...
Please email me your pictures to: awayfrmitall @ comcast.net (remove the spaces)
Let this be fair warning that if I don't get enough pictures voluntarily I am
going to have to resort to swiping them off the web if you have them posted
publicly... I would rather not, but desperate times call for desperate
measures.... LOL
It is turning out really nice and I think Dr. Kuri will really appreciate it...
please be a part of this for him.
Thanks,
Jamie
I have photos from:
Leanne Cortimiglia
Sandy Richards
Heidi O'Brien
Lisa Bergman
Anna Reiss
Sylvia Adan
Mike Reed
Donna Crosland (I have your after... I need a before and your stats)
Ishi
Christine Fisher
Terri Little
Cathy Pickren
Lesa Wade
Sue Altenburg
April Winters
Mona Newbauer
Hanna Beanblossom

Yes you can contact Dr. Ortiz's office directly. I am sure
Information could give you the number in TJ for Obesity Control
Center, if not you can email me and I will give you the direct number.

http://www.obesitycontrolcenter.com/ works for me right now. Not sure
why you didn't get it, but maybe some little glitch somewhere. Stuff
happens.
drortiz@... works too, but know he gets lots of
email. Personally, I'd phone instead of emailing, since I consider
that much more efficient for that kind of thing.
Also, unless your port is REALLY protruding or causing some other
problem, why mess with it now? Wait until you've lost all your
weight. Almost no one will see it except your partner, and s/he will
probably be much more interested in the parts above and below the
port.
If this doesn't help enough, email me privately at the address in sig.
dan
Thursday, August 19, 2004, 5:55:25 AM, you wrote:
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Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Hi Dan, Don't know if you'll remember me. I had surgery with Dr.
Ortiz back in January of this year and haven't been on the lists much
after the 1st month or so. Anyway, I've lost so much weight that my
port is protruding (some problem huh? LOL!!)and I'm considering
having moved. I e-mailed Dr. Ortiz a few weeks ago to ask for his
advice but never got a reply. This is unusual from what I know of
his normal way of doing things and so I got to thinking perhaps his e-
mail address has changed, but obesitycontrolcenter.com seems to not
be operational either. Do you have a working e-mail for him that you
could send me off-list? Thanks so much, Deb Jones
debj@...

I am going to see him today. In Downers Grove Ill. He is Dr Vitello His e-
mail address is -
Jvituic@...
Debby

Hi,
Dr. Horgan at the Surgical Center listed in the database will do fills for a
Mexican patient for $1,000. The phone number listed is not correct though.
It should be 312-255-1900. I called their office this morning and verified
this information. Sylvia or any moderator, could you please update the fill
doctor database with the correct phone number?
I do know that Dr. Vitello does fills for Mexican patients at Good Samaritan
and he does prefer to make appointments by email only. The email address for
him in the database is correct and I understand he is good about responding to
emails. He supposedly does his fills in the evenings which can make it more
convenient for working folks.
Barb F.

I cannot find a doctor in the Chicagoland area to do fills. If anyone
knows of one, please let me know! I looked at the database and can't
seem to get ahold of any of those doctors.
Any advice would be much appreciated!

I live in So Cal, in Orange County and I was a self pay in TJ
Mexico...
I had my surgery with Dr. Ortiz and am very happy with my aftercare,
my results, no problems at all so far. I had my 2nd fill with him
yesterday..
Dr. Kuri is also very well known and experienced in TJ, both
doctors have preformed many surgeries and both have great
aftercare..I have a freidn who used Kuri and she is also very happy
with him.
Those would be the 2 that I know of with expereince and lots of
happy patients.
Good Luck
Michelle
4.6.04
265/223.5/160ish
Dr. Ortiz
2 fills 2.cc's total

I was banded by Dr. Rod in Acuna, Mexico. I found a fill doctor who
is willing to provide aftercare, including further surgeries if I
ever need them, in Kansas City. I was going to have to drive to
Dallas, TX which didn't bother me to go that far. (I love Texas)
Financially, Kansas City is better.
linda
(in Wichita, KS)
5.20.04 ~ Dr. Rod ~ Acuna, Mexico
241/217/happiness
*Going for first fill on 8/27

Since you're so close to TJ I'd recommend Kuri or Ortiz. Personally
I'd not consider anyone else in TJ, but do your own research.
dan
Tuesday, August 17, 2004, 7:52:29 PM, you wrote:
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Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Hello,
My name is Jana and I'm new to the group. I've been researching the
lap-band for several months and I'm ready to move forward. My
insurance doesn't cover it. I tried but was denied.
A little about me. I'm 42 years old and I live in San Diego. For the
past 8 years I've been 125 pounds overweight. uggg. I'm so ready for
this. Like most of you I've tried everything with some success but
it's often short lived.
So, I've decided that it's time to start researching the Mexican
doctors. I've saved my money so that part is covered. I've heard good
things about several of doctors. I'm leaning towards Dr. Kuri
although I haven't met him or talked to him yet. This is based on
many of the posts I've read. I would love to get some feedback. Feel
free to email me at otksandiego@....
Thanks you!
Jana
275/275/150

I am having trouble keeping down soft/liquid meals and now water due to
esphegitis. Its been 3 weeks and seems to be getting worse instead of better so
I
am going for an unfil soon I hope. Waiting for Drs response. If any Basndsters
in the Cleveland area need one they can tag along with me.
Debby

Teresa,
I'm also here in Florida. Having surgery w/Dr. Jose Rodriguez on August 30th.
What doctor in Florida are you going to for your fills?
Also:
I have sleep apnea, and yes, WLS, is one thing that might help get rid of Sleep
apnea..it's a reason in itself to have the surgery.
Debbire

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if there is anybody going to the Sept 10 bash in
Rosarita Beach? If so, are you flying in SD airport, maybe we can
share transportation to Rosarita Beach. It will be me and my
daughter. Anybody interested, please email me sincityjules@...
Hope to see you all there!
Thank you,
Julie
Dr.Ortiz 6/15/04
231/195/140

Hello everyone,
I am putting together something for Dr. Kuri and am in need
of "before" "during" & "after" photos.
If you are a banding or fill patient of Dr. Kuri would you be willing
to email me your photos?
Please include the date of your banding, the weight before, the
weight of any during and your after weight.
You do not need to be at goal for this.
Email to awayfrmitall @ comcast. net (remove spaces)
Thanks so much,
Jamie

The Dr. here in Fla. is the one that recommend that I go to Tijuana and have Dr.
Ortiz to do my revision band (previous wls).
Dr. Ortiz also did this dr.'s band. He will do my fills and any problems that
would arise!
Teresa
Dr. Ortiz, 6/24/04
282/259/160

Hi Libbi,
I was diagosed with sleep apnea several years ago. When I informed
Dr. Kuri and Dr. Peterson I was not told that I cold not have the
surgery because of it. I had surgery with no problems. I'm not
saying that this would be the same for everyone; however, with my
height and weight I'm sure they took the proper pre-cautions. In my
case I felt I was more at risk not having the surgery.
Mary Lou
8/6/04 Dr. Kuri
278.5/-10 +
BMI 58.2

After going to Mexico I was wondering how many of you have a Dr. in
the USA for aftercare? Or do you just get fills with a Radiologist
or back in Mexico?
Do you think its important to have a Dr. here?
Thanks,
Tina

Sylvia: No I have not tlod them. I have not been diagnosed with it. It is
jsut that from reading what other people have said I have ben realizing that
I probably have it. I will call Ishi and tell her. Thanks,
Libbi
6 days to go

This is my 2nd time posting. I have a date now set with Dr.
Rodriguez in Acuna, Mexico; and working with Barbara who is great.
The date set is: August 30th - and I can't wait! I'm a BMI of 37.
Very nervious (of course) and very excited (of course). I really
appreciate all of you and reading all your experiences. It really,
really helps.
To share with you...some friends of ours own a Vitamin Company in
Tulsa, OK. You might want to check it out - they have lots of liquid
vitamins and minerals and protein powders...and the prices are
fantastic! if you want: www.reachforlife.com
Look forward chatting with all of you.
Debbie Lannom

Libbi have you told Dr Kuri or your patient facilitator that you have sleep
apnea? I know that surgery is doable with sleep apnea but your surgeon needs to
be informed ahead of time so they can prepare.
Sylvia
Dr Kuri
-118

Deb;
Where do you live in Indiana? I am in madison. Is your daughter
here or in Utah? There is a great fill doctor in Louisville, KY,
Dr. Allen. But that wouldn't help her if she lives in Utah.
Maybe she can find a fill doctor where she lives and he/she can take
a few tenths of a CC out. If she doesn't stop throwing up that's
what she needs to do. Better than traveling back to Mexico for an
emergency.
Good luck! Let me know how close we are!
Cookie
Dr. Kuri
05-25-04
248/228/162
Tanks Dan I have wrote you several times before and I live in
Indiana

good news Lynn has kept water down and some strained chicken noddle
and a popsicle she is going to try soft liquid foods again tomarrow.
I went on the receipe sight and sent her some ideas for the next two
weeks
ponce de leon

Hi Kristi--
I really have had a great experience with Dr. Kuri... I was living in San Diego
when i got banded and every question was answered and i was able to go to his
office when i thought something was wrong. my port insicion was leaking a little
and hurt.. and he just told me to stop by that same night and he checked it out
gave me a little antibacterial ointment and it was fine.. he's really great i
think.. all my fills were wonderful with him.. ofcourse until i went to this
bozo here in cincinnatti.. at anyrate i highly recommend dr. kuri.. i think he
has done a great job!! Ofcourse everyone in america thinks that you are crazy to
want to have surgery in mexico.. but i thought it was fine.. the operating room
was very modern.. just like in ER!! : ) and the nurses were very nice.. i don't
know.... it was great.. the only thing i would say is that everything goes
fast.. so if you are going to meet with dr. kuri.. i would prepare a list of
questions for him.. he kinda is non chalant about
the surgery since he's done it so many times... but he's always willing to
answer questions... I would give my expereince a 10 out of 10.... also if you
live far from TJ... you can always call him on the toll free line.. i did that
when i was having really bad gas.. it turns out i have IBS.. yeah for me... but
he told me to calm down.. because i thought it was from the band.. and
recommended that i go see a local doctor that what i was having didn't sound
band related.. but ofcourse he said i could come see him.. but i was 2400 miles
away.. but anyway if you have any questions.. let me know.. and by the way i've
lost 106 pounds now.. i have 26 more to go!! i know i can make it!!!
emily
dr. kuri
2-28-04
297-191-165
kristi <kristib@...
emily-I am thinking about getting my band from Dr. Kuri-are you happy with
the results? How much have you lost? How was your experience there?
Kristi

However, if it was one of the 10CC bands (not lapband), then a couple
CC is routinely done by some docs, depending on their estimate of the
amount of "tightness" there was when they did the surgery.
Friday, August 13, 2004, 2:14:46 PM, you wrote:
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Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Yeah well now i'm on to soft foods.. and i'm not feeling any restriction
either.. i'm really pissed.. i feel like i just wasted 270 dollars... and four
hours of my time driving!!!!
let me know what dr. kuri says when you go see him... i hope they didn't mess up
our ports!!!!!
emily
pattiecaroline <pattiecaroline@...
Emily,
I was also banded by Dr Kuri and have had two fills from American
Drs- On the second fill, I had the same experience as you and I my
end result was NO restriction. On the second fill, the dr filled,
then I did the swallow under flouro- everything flowed WAY too
fast..so he again, took out what was in my port and it squirted
everywhere again, he added more-- But in the end I had no idea how
much I had gotten put in, and I had NO restriction. I am going to Dr
Kuri on Tuesday for my first fill with him. Hopefully, I will get a
decent fill and finally start losing weight :) I am forever hopefull!
Pattie

Sometimes the stomach swells at first which is one of the reasons that most
doctors do not put in any fill for at least 6 weeks. Sounds to me like she
needs the fill taken out, who was the doctor???
Joan

Call the doctor immediately. Who is her doctor? She needs hydration.
Let us know how she's doing.

Emily,
I was also banded by Dr Kuri and have had two fills from American
Drs- On the second fill, I had the same experience as you and I my
end result was NO restriction. On the second fill, the dr filled,
then I did the swallow under flouro- everything flowed WAY too
fast..so he again, took out what was in my port and it squirted
everywhere again, he added more-- But in the end I had no idea how
much I had gotten put in, and I had NO restriction. I am going to Dr
Kuri on Tuesday for my first fill with him. Hopefully, I will get a
decent fill and finally start losing weight :) I am forever hopefull!
Pattie

Friday, August 13, 2004, 8:56:02 AM, you wrote:
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Oh, I'm better. But still not where I wish I was. I just heal more
slowly than many, I guess, and I'm old, so.....I'm still draining from
where the Hematoma was, and am back on antibiotics for a newly
developed cellulitis near part of my incisions. Just one damn thing
after another. But I'm getting stronger, can walk more upright, but
am still supposed to take it very easy so that the hematoma will heal
up, dry up, and quit draining. Not painful, just an irritation, and
bothersome to have to change bandages several times a day.
dan
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

I need some help My daughter had surgery on mon afternoon. She had to
travel home on Thurs. and it my have been the trip but she had dry
heaves or sick on the plane and in the car. Then when she got home
she was sick about every hour untill 5:30am She has gotten some rest
and has not got sick yet today. I told her to get on the couch with a
glass of water and sip it slowly over the next two hours and don't
worry about anything but keeping the water down. I am worried about
dehydration. I told her I would get with you guys and see if any had
simular expereinces. The Dr put 2cc of fill in is that normal? She is
calling him today. What are the signs of slippage and how do you know
what is normal or not?

Dan, I have spoke with my Dr and under his care. I am doing better. For now
however i am on a liquid diet due to alot of throwing up and swollen esepheous
some kind of idis. But atleast liquids are gong down ok. Its been 2 weeks but
i am needed one or two more weeks i think. If not better i have to be an
unfil.
Thanks for helping me out .How are you doing since your surgery? Feeling
better Yet?
Debby

I lost 35lbs before I needed a fill

is their anyone lucky enough out there who never needed a fill
because the band was enough restriction? thanks dm

I'm looking to have lap band surgery done in september in Mexico - if
I can find a doctor in South Florida for fills and any emergencies.
I'm in Ft. Lauderdale - but could be in any part of South florida
from Orlando - Naples - West Palm Beach - Miami.
Thank you.
Debbie

Go to the files/databases section of this group and you'll find a
comprehensive list of fill doctors in the US.
dan
Thursday, August 12, 2004, 12:10:01 PM, you wrote:
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Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

emily-I am thinking about getting my band from Dr. Kuri-are you happy with
the results? How much have you lost? How was your experience there?
Kristi

hi all-
i was banded by dr. kuri.. and have had all my fills done by him in
the past except for this last one... i moved to ohio from san
diego.. so i needed someone closer.... at anyrate.. i had a strange
experience.. and i was wondering if any of you out there going to
american doctors have had a similar experience....
so i layed down on the table.. he found the port --- after they
looked at me under flouro.. he stuck a needle in my side.. and
saline started pouring out.. the doctor was like.. i think i lost
about a 1cc.... then they preceeded to add 1.5 ccs.. i went back
under flouro and they said it was restriced.. and i heard the nurse
say.. about how much did you put it.. and he said.. like .25
or.3.... so now i don't know exactly how much is in there.. and
today i'm not feeling much restriction.. but i'm still on liquids..
so i guess i won't really know until i eat real food.. but the last
time i had a fill with dr. kuri... he took all the saline out and
then replaced it was a higher number.. he took out 2.2 and added
2.6... so i knew how much i had... anyway i was just wondering if
anyone else had an experience with saline squirting out of there
side.. or if this guy possible messed something up...
thanks!
emily
dr. kuri 2-28-03
297-191-165

The Seattle Winter Bash has been rescheduled to Presidents Day
Weekend- February 19th-21st, 2004. Further details will be posted in
the next few weeks. Joanne in Seattle

Dr. Ortiz is NOT a licensed US Physician. He along with Dr. Lopez
and Dr. Rumbaut are proctors for Inamed. When one of the these
physicians proctor a US surgeon various forms are completed and
their qualifications such as their medical licenses in Mexico are
verified and notarized.
Robin

Thank you so much Dan
Kc

Make sure you ask CFP if it matters what US state the Dr. is licensed in. A
Doctor who is licensed in California cannot practice medicine in Utah or New
York etc unless he is also licensed in those states. CFP may not need that legal
requirement for Drs who practice medicine in Mexico, but please make sure before
you sign on the dotted line. Good Luck!
Sylvia

Tuesday, August 10, 2004, 9:02:22 AM, you wrote:
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The fill is done with a needle. Takes a minute or two normally. The
fill is done with sterile saline (salt water). The amound is only one
or two CC, depending, and that is less than a teaspoon.
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Sometimes when you lose a lot of weight it may be visible as a small
lump. But it looks a heck of a lot better than a big wad of fat. Most
can feel it by pressing over it. It feels like a small hard lump under
your skin and fat. How easy it is to see or feel depends on exactly
where the doc puts it, how much fat is over it, etc, etc. It is NOT a
big deal.
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If you know any bandsters in your area, ask them to let you feel their
port. The vast majority of us will be glad to do so. The day before
I got my band I felt several ports in the hot tub at the Seattle Bash
of 03.
Also, consider getting Jessie Ahroni's book on the band, which just
came out. Search her name on Amazon or Barnes and Noble and you'll
find it easily.
cheers
dan
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Dr. Ortiz is licensed in the US, I believe, since he proctors US
doctors for Inamed. He is also a US citizen and lives in San Diego,
in case that matters to you.
dan
Tuesday, August 10, 2004, 7:02:18 PM, you wrote:
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Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

I have been approved for financing through Cosmetic Fee. However the
Dr. I chose is not on their "approved" list. They said it doesn't
matter if I have the surgery in Mexico the Dr. just needs to be
licensed in the U.S. Has anyone else used CFP for finacing?

Are there any US licensed Dr's in Mexico. If so who are they?

I'm not sure if you were talking to me -but i am not trying to sound dumb, I
have watched the video on the band but still do not have the full concept of
the fill and the fluid they use, I know you have to have them but not sure
how often and why. I know you have a port under the skin but do you see it
do you feel it,. I want to have the band and am trying to get financing as
we speak. I am sorry if this seems retarded but it is all foreign to me.

Hi,
I am traveling alone to Dr Ortiz to get a fill on AUgust 23...IS
anyone going o be around? I am worried about getting from the
airport to the hotel.
Thanks!
Beth

Just an FYI that I will be going to "Special Notices" soon... We leave
later this week for a family vacation, then upon our return, the movers will
be here to pack us up! I'm hoping to be up & running from the new house by
the end of August! See y'all then :) !!
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"We're Doing The Right Thing."
Harry's New Mantra Response:
"Doing The Right Thing Is VERY Expensive."
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Emily,
Have you joined Dr. Kuri's board? Do you have any specific questions
we can answer for you?
I was banded last December by Dr. Kuri and would love to help you out
in any way.
Jamie

I think Joyce is trying to pull someone's leg....Or trying to be
funny....There's enough data on the internet for her to find out
what banding is all about.....Just my thoughts Ima

Those are virus messages. That person either has a virus, or is in
the address book of someone who does. ANY TIME you get an attachment
that you didn't expect IN ADVANCE, just delete it.
If you ever accidentally delete something important, the person can
send it again.
dan
Monday, August 9, 2004, 10:50:52 AM, you wrote:
SH
SH
SH
SH
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Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

Susan do NOT open that attachment. My email has never had an "o" in
it and I didn't send anyone anything. I think someone took a version
of my name and is trying to make people think that I am sending out a
virus by doing it themselves...

Whoever has the email name "awayfromitall" please email me privately. I am
getting mail with attachments from your address in my bulk folder . I don't
know if this is a virus or you really are sending me a message. I have been on
these boards for over 1 year and this has never happened to me before. Sue H.

Read this on another bandster website:
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 11:19:32 -0500
From: "tammi porter" <tammip@...
Subject: Re: gonna get it done, need some answers
I got banded last Wed and Thurs he had to do it twice.I had a hernia so
he repaired that then put on the american band after 18 hrs of pain
they went in and put on a sweedish band and charged me 4000 more dollars I
a not happy about that but I had no choice nothing was going thru I
think he should have ckd it before he sewed me up...........anyway I have
been fine since, except for some spitting up.I am only on liquid
nothing else or I know the tightness and pain will come back evdently my
stomache is still very swollen from the hernia repair too because my band
is very tight!............Tammi........Still trying to recoup

How does one contact Mr. Gregorio?
Angela at Dr. Kuri's office put me in contact with Mr.
Gregorio who operates Transporte de Turismo Internacional, a taxi service.

Last time I went to TJ for a fill, my plane landed in San Diego @
11:30am and I had a 12:00 noon appointment. The bus/trolley wasn't an
option, so Angela at Dr. Kuri's office put me in contact with Mr.
Gregorio who operates Transporte de Turismo Internacional, a taxi
service.
For $50, Mr. Gregorio met me @ baggage claim and we climbed into his
van. We jumped the border and he drove me to Medimagen for my fill.
As I recall, we arrived at about 12:10pm, only a few minutes late.
I'm quite thankful for this service and feel it was well worth the
money in terms of time & tips saved.
Though I had plenty of time to make my flight out the next day, I
used Mr. Gregorio's service again to get back to SAN airport. His
special transit pass ensures a shorter wait at the US border, though
I did have to walk into the screening station, thru the metal
detectors and get my bags x-rayed. You exit thru a special door back
to the van and we continued on our way.
Mr. Gregorio's service may help some people schedule appointments at
times it's more convenient or less costly to fly. I believe his
service is available 24x7.
Eric in Tri-Cities, Wa

How long does the port stay in?
kc
Subject: [mexicanbandsters] banded 08-07-04 dr.kuri

I have crossed over into band land.....I m back in dallas tonight......I met 3
amazing women having their band on same day, they had 2 supportive husbands and
a supportive mom and dad.....we all got to talk and share as we ventured
out.......we are all fine and 2 - 3 of us are all back home........I'm sore
(feel like I have been sucker punched in the gut) and my port sight is a little
swollen. other than that I am fine.............anita in texas....

Gina, if you are out there under a new email address, could you
please contact me offline by email? I haven't been reading posts
lately and just saw this one. I see that someone is logged in
as "Ginalbe" right now. I haven't been reading the posts and just
saw this. I'm afraid my email earlier to you ended up in the wrong
hands. Thanks.
Maureen
has stolen
deleting "Ginalbe" and don't want to be responsible for any further
actions under this name. Thank-you.

Thank you all who attended the Inland Empire 1st support Group
Meeting at the Tyler Mall. Their were my husband and I and 12 other
people (sorry I am terrible at names and can only remember a few)
Polar Bear Mike, Kirsten, VOW, Cathy from Washington, a mother
daughter team, VOW's daughter & Boyfriend, 4 pre banded (VOW's
daughter & Libby & 2 others). It was great! It was a small intimate
group, those who wanted purchased food & drinks. We found a spot
over on the side that was nice (they also have a huge outside for
when the weather is cooler). We were able to have group discussion
with the pre-banded to try & help with their biggest fears/concerns
about banding. And with us banded we were able to have good
roundtable discussion on subjects that were good for both pre &
banded people. I can't wait for next month! I will stick with the
1st Saturday of the month as the OSCB meeting is on the 3rd Sunday
of the month. Like I said yesterday, Same Band Channel, same Band
time! (remember BatmanJ). Well since I am now giddy with success I
will close on a high note. IT WAS GREAT!

Go to the database, there all there.
http://snipurl.com/7vk0
Sylvia
Dr. Kuri
350/233/199
Someone was nice enough to e-mail me names of doctors in colorado
who will do fill for Mexican banded people. But I deleted it
accidentally. Could I get that again?
Thanks so much,
Rebecca
Dr.Rodriguez
3/05/04
200/163/130

I have finally found a location to get together for "coffee" in the Inland
Empire (Riverside-San Bernardino) area. I have searched "high & low" and found
that we can meet the Tyler Mall Food Court. It is very easy to find, just off
the 91 FWY at Tyler exit go North (you can see the mall off the freeway), go to
the back of the mall just south of Penny's, you will see the outside dining area
upstairs, enter their at the arch that says "Tyler Mall" and there is a
escalator just inside the door. Go to the second floor. And you are there. Any
and all are welcome, banded, pre-banded, banded support people ect, you do not
have to be from the Inland Empire, you can drive as far as you want to get to
us. I will post this info on the OSCB Board, Dr. Kuri Board & Spotlight Board.
If you know of any other bandster boards to post this to please do not hesitate
to do so. The more the merrier. DATE: Saturday August 7 at 10am (the Mall is
open) I will be the lady with the balloon. Hope to see
someone, other than me, there.
Lesa
1-18-03
220/154/150
Size 22 to size 10-12

Elizabeth: Thanks for the kind words. I feel much better this am. Funny
about those late night worries and doubts.
Libbi

Thanks you for responding. I am feeling much more at ease this morning.
Libbi

Yes but the two people (three now so I have found out) that were affected by the
stolen passwords and user names are connected in a big way, too much of a
coincidence I think. Gina was not affected by a virus, she turned on her

This is an email I just got from Gina, just so you know. Obviously the same
thing happened to Robin yesterday :-(
I wonder who could be doing this? So sad!
Sylvia
Sylvia -
I am sending this email to moderators to inform you that someone has stolen
my password and is logged in as me. I am deleting "Ginalbe" and don't want
to be responsible for any further actions under this name.
I never intended to cause a war, and in reviewing my posts, several of them
referred to Dr. Ortiz in a very positive manner. It was his Coordinator's
conduct that I found appalling. Apparently, he has severed his relationship
with her.
You may post this if you feel it is appropriate.
Thank-you.
Gina

I have finally found a location to get together for "coffee" in the
Inland Empire (Riverside-San Bernardino) area. I have searched "high
& low" and found that we can meet the Tyler Mall Food Court. It is
very easy to find, just off the 91 FWY at Tyler exit go North (you
can see the mall off the freeway), go to the back of the mall just
south of Penny's, you will see the outside dining area upstairs,
enter their at the arch that says "Tyler Mall" and there is a
escalator just inside the door. Go to the second floor. And you are
there.
Any and all are welcome, banded, pre-banded, banded support people
ect, you do not have to be from the Inland Empire, you can drive as
far as you want to get to us.
I will post this info on the OSCB Board, Dr. Kuri Board & Spotlight
Board.
If you know of any other bandster boards to post this to please do
not hesitate to do so. The more the merrier.
DATE: Saturday August 7 at 10am (the Mall is open)
I will be the lady with the balloon.
Hope to see someone, other than me, there.
Lesa
1-18-03
220/154/150
Size 22 to size 10-12

Hey girl. When I go to the hosptial on surgery day (21st) I will try to find
you. I hear the hopital is small so I am sure we will be meeting. Question?
How are you feeling about the surgery? I have been so excited and all of a
sudden I find myself crying. I was laying in bed last night and started to
cry. I really searched for the reason (cause i was clueless at first) and
realized that I am afraid it won't work for me. That I am doomed to be fat
forever. That this is a huge, expensive folly. Oh, I hate this fear. There
are so
many people who are successful, why not me? Has anyone else felt this way?
Libbi

In a message dated 8/4/04 4:18:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

There was a post with an attachment that looked like it was from
Robin. I have now deleted it from the website. Please NEVER open
posts with an attachment. Thanks Sylvia
This is what Robin just emailed to me:
Subject: Virus in Posts - Please Help
Hi Sylvia,
There is a post on the Mexican Bandsters with an attachment that has
a virus attached. It sees Read Immediately. I did NOT post this. Do
you know how someone could do this?
Please help and please let the board know it wasn't me.
Robin Mancini
203 467-0720
Thank you in advance

I am ready for a fill, and ready to get my butt in gear. I am
planning on flying into San Diego sometime at the end of August and I
was wondering if anyone else has plans. I would love to share a ride
to TJ. I will be flying in around 8am and flying home the same day
in the afternoon.... Email me if you wish...
Sheryl
(momtotwins02@...)
4/16/03

Found it -thank you

[INLINE]

I can get Belighter on http://belighter.com/ without a problem.

Norma Brinkley-Staley

nbrinkley-staley@...

[INLINE]

Actually I think that is probably belighterweight.com.

Don, what a unique idea. I live in WI so it would be a long commute but I
want to commend you on your creative thinking in paying for your surgery.
Good luck finding a renter. I have to agree with you, all of the banded
people I have met are super.
Carol
5/4/04
Drs. Ortiz and Martinez
-38

I don't know why but I can't get it to work-do you know anywhere else I can see the video?
Kristi

Hello Banded People,
First off I wanna say this is gonna be a little off topic but then
again, maybe not so much. I was banded last october and have done
very well so far... I know that most everyone on this board is self
pay since we went to Mexico so I was wondering if there was anyone
out there that lives in the Dallas area that might need help saving
money and might wanna rent a room from me? I have a 3/2/2/2 in
Rowlett. I had originally rented out my house to pay for surgery and
I had rented it for 1 year but they moved out at 6 months without
notice so I moved back in and have decided to just rent a room to
help me pay off my surgery. I would like someone like minded (meaning
Banded) to rent from me as I think that all banded people I have met
so far are very special people (and I've met hundreds). So, if anyone
is interested or knows of anyone please have them contact me.

You may not have the required plug in on your on your computer..maybe
you need this.
http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?
P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
Sylvia

I'm posting this message at the request of my surgeon, Dr. Ariel Ortiz
of Tijuana. I've posted it to three groups, TijuanaBandsters,
MexicanBandsters, and DrOrtiz, where I believe some recent discussion
of Dr. Ortiz and of his practice has gone on, with a great deal of
animosity by various parties. If some members of these groups where
I've posted feel it is appropriate to cross post to some other
relevant group, then do so, as long as this message is sent in its
entirety.
I have no further comments to make, as his message below speaks for
itself.
dan
This is a forwarded message
From: Ariel Ortiz Lagardere <drortiz@...
===8<==============Original message text===============
As you know, we do not follow any web group, even ours for that matter, much
less post on any of these groups.
We believe in these groups and the help they provide to others wishing to
take the next step. Or those who have done so and require support. We do not
follow these groups, not because of lack of interest, our involvement with
the patient is much more on a professional, one to one basis.
For the record, we are not involved in any group and do not condone its use
for patient acquisition. Our reputation speaks for itself and will not
permit it to be jeopardized in any way.
We have taken notice of this person posting without our knowledge and
appropriate measures have been taken. This person is no longer associated to
us in any way. We deeply regret the inconvenience caused to any patient in
this forum and again express our desire that these groups be utilized only
for what they are meant, to support and guide patients through their
weight-loss experience.
Please feel free to post this response on any board which may benefit from
reading my personal comments on these unfortunate incidents.
--
Respectfully,
Ariel Ortiz Lagardere, MD, FACS
Www.obesitycontrolcenter.com
drortiz@...
C:(619)247-9695
C:011-52-(664)3686322
===8<===========End of original message text===========
--
Best regards,
Dan mailto:honu@...

Jeff, it is important to try to stay hydrated in the mean time. Try
taking small sips of hot broth and lukewarm water. It sounds like
your stomach has swollen a bit. But keep a close eye on that
temperature! Best wishes, Debbie

Call Dr Ponce De Leon Doctor first thing in the morning Jeff. I am sure you will be fine, but no sense in taking any chances.

Sylvia

Subject: [mexicanbandsters] Banded 7-31 and sick , help!!

I was banded 7-31, everything seems to have went fine with the band,
and I really loved the care I received, however now I am home and I
cannot seem to keep anything at all down, I am running a small temp
and just really feel lousy, is this normal?
Jeff Adams
406/395/250
Dr. Ponce De Leon
7-31-04

I was banded 7-31, everything seems to have went fine with the band,
and I really loved the care I received, however now I am home and I
cannot seem to keep anything at all down, I am running a small temp
and just really feel lousy, is this normal?
Jeff Adams
406/395/250
Dr. Ponce De Leon
7-31-04

Dr. Ortiz did mine and I've had no problems. I was a revision. My 20 yr old is
going on 9/2/04 to have it done by Dr. Ortiz too. I am very pleased by my
experience with Dr. Ortiz and his team.

HI EVERYONE,
I AM NEW TO THIS SITE AND STILL DOING RESEARCH ON MEXICO LAP-BAND.
ANY HELP OR INFORMATION WOULD BE GREAT! ALSO ANY DOCTORS IN MARYLAND
THAT WILL DO FILLS WOULD BE HELPFUL. I AM SHOCKED OUR INSURANCE
COMPANIES WILL NOT PAY FOR THIS SURGERY. THANKS FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN
GIVE ME.
DEBBIE

Just to let you know that I have heard from 4 more facilties that
will do fills for us..Kentucky...New York, Illinois and Mississippi.
http://snipurl.com/7vk0
Sylvia

Please check out Dr. Kuri. He gets my vote.
Libbi

Jennifer,
I have never heard of Dr. Gonzalez. Do you have a first name? Also,
use the search function on this site. Type in the doctor's name and
read everything you can on this doctor (it may be limited here so
also search as many sites as you can.)
As for driving into TJ I wouldn't do it (if you do be sure to
get "mexican insurance"). Park in a secure lot at the border and take
Mexicoach across.
Please be sure to research this doctor and find out exactly how many
bands he has done because the complication rate goes up the first 50
bands a doctor has done (or around that amount) just because it is a
new experience for the doctor.
Jamie
Dr. Kuri
12/13/03
262.5/220/150ish

I'm still plugging away trying to get financing. I am approved
through APFUSA for 7000. so I'm very excited about that. Now I'm
faced with finding a Dr. I was leaning towards Dr. Lopez, but have
also been refered to Dr. Gonzalez. Any oppinions? Dr. Gonzalez is
cheaper but does not provide transpertation over the border. My
husband and I are nervous about driving ourselves. We've never been
to Mexico. I would love to hear any advice.
Also, thanks for all the support with my financing problems. BOO
Capitol One!
Thanks

Please refer to post subject: "Enough please" post number 12144
We have to get past this.
Thank you
Moderator

Just heard from a group in Mississippi that said they will do fills for us Mexican banded folks, you must live within a few hours of the facility.

http://snipurl.com/86kw

Sylvia

I just used one of those low interest checks from my credit company to pay
for it. I just wrote the check out to myself and put it in my checking
account and then paid the surgeon from my personal account. This was very
easy for me to do this way. No hassles at all.

Jennifer,
You can try www.medicredit.com and www.apfusa.com - You can
also ask the Doctor's Office to register with them, it only takes a
few minutes.
Robin

You know, this is really getting old. I'm a member of this group for support not to listen to all this bullshit. Take it the group in question Gina, I dont want to hear it anymore and I'm sure the other members feel the same way.

Tasha

I was scheduled for my band surgery with Dr. Lopez, Aug. 23. I was
so excited, then my financing fell thru! Capitol One approved me for
the full ammount. I made sure they excepted Dr's out of the US, she
said as long as they have a US bank account to dirrect deposit the
money to, which Dr. Lopez does. I called Capitol One Friday to see
how long it will take to recieve the loan papers because I was going
to make my flight arrangments, and a different person said that
thier policies have changed, they no longer work with any Dr's out
of the US. I spoke with management and they confirmed this NEW
change! Now I'm SOOOOO disapointed. I hate that it always comes down
to money.
Anyhow, I'm posting to ask if anyone has had good luck with any
other loan companies. Any information on financing my surgery would
be so helpful.
Thank you

Thank God, you finally got the cojones!
In a message dated 8/1/2004 11:15:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "iamyuneek"
<iamyuneek@...
decent people's reasoning, and I dont think she did Dr. Ortiz any favors with
her actions.
continue this please email each other privately, and keep it off this board, any
more references will be deleted, enough.
--
C ANGLE

Are you the Julie that came to our local Las Vegas support group? If so how are you doing? Looks like your weight loss is great/ Forty pounds in six weeks!

Sonja

Las Vegas, Nevada

Okay I am giving fair warning, please, no more public posts about this it serves no one any purpose, and I am dreading seeing mail come into my inbox.

Sandy's (zsflower..aka Gailkitty) reasons for doing what she did is beyond most decent people's reasoning, and I dont think she did Dr. Ortiz any favors with her actions.

Also obviously, any one can call the Oasis (as Gina did) to check on the facts.

The moderators can't win with this no matter what they do, so if you wish to continue this please email each other privately, and keep it off this board, any more references will be deleted, enough.
Thank you

Sylvia
Moderator.

Dr. McKim in Boise, Idaho. I had consults with four local doctors.
All were recommended by various people, both medical and by personal
friends. A fifth one was also recommended, but since she specializes
in breast reconstructions, and because it takes six months to get a
consult, and another nine to twelve months to get on her surgery
schedule, especially if you're not a breast reconstruction, I didn't
bother with her.
I have been very pleased with Dr. McKim and his staff, and would have
no hesitation to recommend him to anyone else in the area. But I'd
definitely recommend that anyone carefully consider getting their PS
locally if possible, same as getting your band done locally if
possible.
dan
Saturday, July 31, 2004, 6:39:00 AM, you wrote:
tac
Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk
Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03
323/211/199 Age 61

I am absolutley disgusted that you would allow Gina to post negative
information about a Dr. she knows nothing about. I was banded my
Dr.Ortiz and Dr.Martinez June 15, 2004. I had a WONDERFUL experience,
and have complete and total faith in both doctors and thier staff.
HOW DARE YOU GINA TRY AND SCARE PEOPLE! I was banded in LIMARPA. VERY
CLEAN, VERY NICE, VERY UP TO DATE. Infact, I was treated better there
than I have in American hospitals. I had a beautiful view of the golf
course and the city. As for "MAKEING YOU LEAVE THE VERY NEXT MORNING"
that is a load of CRAP. I was asked if I felt the NEED TO STAY
ANOTHER NIGHT. I didn't even leave until after 1pm the next day. Upon
returning to my condo in Del Mar to recoup, I received phone calls
from Gabbie, office assistant, and Dr.Martinez to see how I was
doing. Then, upon coming back home to Las Vegas, I got a phone call
from Dr.Oritz to see if I was doing alright. When I experienced some
pain, that I thought was abnormal (it wasn't) I called and left a
message 8pm. I got a call back at 9pm. Both Dr.Ortiz and Dr.Martinez
have offered to find me a Dr. in Vegas, if I didn't want to travel to
TJ. They have been nothing but PROFESSIONAL, KIND, COURTEOUS, AND
TREATED ME LIKE PART OF THIER FAMILY! I would highly recommend
Dr.Ortiz over any other Dr. in TJ. Infact, GINA, you obiviously
didn't do your research. I researched Dr.Ortiz for 4 months prior to
having him band me. I also researched Dr.Kuri. If you had done your
homework, you would see where you need to put your so called
JUDGEMENTS ON A DOCTOR. AND I CAN TELL YOU IT IS NOT DR ORTIZ OR DR
MARTINEZ. GINA.......YOU ARE IGNORANT. HOW DARE YOU TRY AND RUIN A
VERY GOOD DR'S NAME, SCARE PEOPLE THAT ARE CONSIDERING THIS SURGERY.
YOU JUST MAKE YOURSELF LOOK BAD.
I am very happy with my decision, as is thousands of patients. NOT
HUNDREDS, THOUSANDS!!!!!!!!!
To anybody considering Dr.Ortiz, DON'T LET THE FEEBLE MIND OF ONE
INDIVIDUAL SOUR YOUR MIND AND YOUR DECISION.
I have no regrets, and would do it over, and over, and over, and over
and over again.
Julie
231/198/140
June 15, 2004

hi

i'm being a busy body..is this the sandy RN from the bandster and smartbandsters? i'm out of the loop and can't keep up with all of this..

judy m. from ny

Sylvia: That apology showed a lot of class. I applaud you.
Libbi

Moderator
Why would you delete a post that mentions "some people have gotten
infections in TJ" but allow this? Isn't this hearsay as well? And
she continues to rant in multiple boards. What she is claiming is
absolutly not correct. Why allow her posts but not others? Just
curious.
Gina writes:
"I found out that
even though his price has increased a few hundred dollars, the
quality has
significantly decreased. Something IS DEFINITELY going on with Ortiz'
practice.
BE AWARE --HE NO LONGER USES THE OASIS HOSPITAL (WHICH IS A
FULL SERVICE HOSPITAL WITH ICU) HE IS USING A FACILITY WHICH IS
MORE "OUT-PATIENT" BASED. THERE IS NO ICU, AND YOU HAVE TO
LEAVE THE VERY NEXT MORNING. IN ADDITION, HIS WEBSITE IS STILL
OFFERING OASIS HOSPITAL USE.
I FIND THESE PRACTICES VERY MISLEADING AND VERY DISINGENOUS.
SO, I AM NOT SURPRISED HIS COORDINATOR USES THESE TACTICS.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS: MORE MONEY IN HIS POCKET, LESS
QUALITY TO THE PATIENT. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO HIS BUSINESS
ADVISOR IS. IT'S GOING TO RUIN HIM."

Oh boy, I give up! Maureen's post has been deleted from the website. If you read the front of Mexican Bandsters it states quite clearly "This group is for peer support and information. This is also the place to get information about different doctors and their practices, but please only post if it has been *YOUR OWN* experience."

Maureen you cannot arbitrarily state that there have been quite a few people getting infections in TJ if you are not one of them. A patient that had an infection can come on and state that fact, and even name the Doctor, otherwise it's hearsay. Shame on you.

Moderator

t a patient rep or anything so here's my two cent's
worth. Since you're still researching surgeons, you might want to
consider Dr. Rumbaut in Monterrey, Mexico. In my research and just
from watching the posts, I found that there were quite a few people
getting infections lately after having surgery in Tijuana. From
what I heard, this doesn't reflect on the surgeon's skill, but more
on the clinic or hospital cutting corners on the equipment that is
less sterile.
I just had surgery with Dr. Rumbat on 7-20-04 and my care was
excellent. It is a beautiful, modern, full service hospital and
they keep you there overnight. Dr. Rumbaut has performed the lap-
band procedure 2,300 times. He also has the lap-band himself, so he
understands like few surgeons can.
My cost was $9,200, not including travel and hotel expenses.
Probably one of the more expensive doctors in Mexico, but you get
what you pay for. From what I can tell the hospital is what made
the difference in the cost. Just so you know what to expect, the
pre-op tests with the cardiologist/internist made me nervous at
first because the office was far from fancy. However, my fears were
dispelled when I arrived at the hospital, which was excellent. My
husband used to work for a hospital and he was especially impressed
by the nurses there.
If you are interested in Dr. Rumbaut, contact his office directly.
I went through a patient rep company and was sorry afterwards. They
were helpful at first, but as soon as I made the downpayment, I got
no real help from them. Go to Dr. Rumbau's web site
www.gastricband.com. His patient representative, Doralisa, has
always been helpful and replied to my phone calls and emails.
Good luck with your decision!
Maureen

Is he going to be working from same image center in Arlington? Has the new doctor been doing fills long? Dr Dobson has has trouble finding the ports on alot of patients so was just wondering if new dr. had more experience. What do you know about him? Wish they could do fill on tilt table so they can leave needle in as we drink --thats how they do in Paris--liked it better but drive is so far.

Mary,
Perhaps you misunderstand my posts. My issue is: the lack of integrity
by Dr. Ortiz' patient coordinator using deceitful tactics on Dr. Kuri's board;
the FACT that he doesn't use the Oasis Hospital which he represents on his
website (which again was confirmed by my simple call to Oasis) and the FACT
that he has increased his rates while decreasing the quality of care from a
hospital that has a fully operational ICU to the "surgical center" which does
not.
This is highly offensive to me and others as you can see. Sandy is the
one caught lacking in integrity. She was not caught by ME, she was caught
by someone else. This reaffirms my findings.
You are correct that I have not been banded. I am concerned when I see
conduct that is blatantly unprofessional. My attempt is not to create
fear but to share information which is purpose of these boards. I am sorry that
you opted to condemn the messenger (me) rather than acknowledge the
simple facts of this matter.
No, Dr. Ortiz has not offended me. I wanted him to do my surgery.
Please see my previous posts. Conduct by his Representative (Sandy a/k/a
GailKitty2000) is highly offensive and is a reflection on his practice. I would
like
to know whether or not he condones and supports these methods of business.
I am almost certain he would be horrified. In any event someone who makes
the business decisions for his practice needs to educate himself on basic
business principles and take swift action.
With regard to your caution to me that I am "hovering near the slipper
slope of mean-spirited and (my statements are) potentially libelous" you are
erroneous. Since you throw out a legal term, please be advised that TRUTH is
always a defense to a claim of defamation or libel. What I have said is the
TRUTH.
Your caution would be better served by addressing Sandy, the Coordinator for
Ortiz and the offending party in this instance. Please also be advised, that
due
to Sandy's conduct, she has now been prohibited from the
Mexicanbandster site. Of course, she may sneak in under another name.
The fact that you are defending her highly unprofessional tactics by
attempting to divert the attention on to me is suspicious. Perhaps you are yet
another alias of Sandy. Let's be clear on the issues before you attack me.
Again, I am not the one that exposed Sandy's fraud. I merely provided
information as researched by me. Please do not accuse me of trying to
frighten anyone. It is simply a misdirected effort to reframe Sandy's conduct.
Gina

Sandy (a/k/a GailKitty2000) - PUHLEASE! If you are going to "defend" yourself
please don't cloud the issue.
Let me be concise:
On August 1 "tquinoa" on MEXICANBANDSTERS asked you to defend
yourself concerning "that other allegation".
Your recent post (on Ortiz' board) doesn't address "that other allegation"
(i.e.
you assuming the identity of GailKitty2000 and trying to gain access to Dr.
Kuri's board).
RATHER, you attempt to cloud the issue by pasting your post dated July 14th.
CLEARLY, you are not asking to defend yourself with regard to the issue of the
July 14th post when the request for your defense was dated August 1 with
respect to the post "outing" you dated July 31st.
"Tquinoa" is asking you to defend yourself with regard to your assuming
another identity and gaining access to Dr. Kuri's board. YOU HAVE BEEN
TAGGED!
HELLO! THE POST YOU SHOULD BE RESPONDING TO IS THAT FROM
"AWAYFRMITALL" WHO ON JULY 31st VIA
MEXICAN BANDSTERS EXPOSED YOUR DECEPTIVE WAYS. DO YOU
GET THIS?
Again, you are acting as if we are ignorant people. You have been caught
attempting to gain access to another surgeon's board. Everyone knows patient
coordinators work on commissions. You are fraudently identifying yourself as
someone you are not (i.e. a prospective patient of Dr. Kuri's) when in fact you
ARE DR. ORTIZ'S PATIENT COORDINATOR. PLEASE WAIVE THE WHITE
FLAG AND SURRENDER.
Your integrity is in the toilet. You are sharking other Surgeons websites
looking to harvest their patients for your monetary gain. Shameful. I can only
hope Dr. Ortiz is horrified at your conduct.
The gig is up!
I am cross posting this as others should be aware of a shark in the waters.
gina

Sandy, aka GailKitty, aka zsflower, has been banned from Mexican Bandsters. I think the reasons for this action is obvious.

Thank you for your understanding in this matter, if you have anything to say to me about this decision please email me privately so we do not clog up this support board with this matter any further.

Moderator

Hi Everyone!
I wanted to make sure everyone has Dr. Dobson's new phone number 972-
660-3188 to schedule band fills! The 817 number no longer works. Dr.
Dobson also has a new partner Dr. Peterson. Dr. Peterson can also
perform fills. They perform fills twice a week so you can pretty
much get in the same week you call. Great Service for all of us.
Carol Ann

Tina,

Congradulations on your inch and weight loss.

Lucy

Hey all!
I had to shout it out!!!
One month stats :)
Weight stats - 265 start / 247 current : total loss 18 lbs
Measurement stats:
Neck 16.5/16 : .5
Chest 46/43.5 : 2.5
Upper Arm 19.5/17.5 : 2
Waist 42/39.5 : 2.5
Thigh 33/30.5 : 2.5
Hips 55.5/52 : 3.5
Calves 20.25/19.5 : .75
Total Inches lost: 14.25!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was sooo dooing the happy dance :) With only 18 lbs lost I was
expecting something like 2 or 3 inches (based on what I dont know -
like I have a clue how many inches of fat weighs how much - LOL -
but thats what I expected!!)
If Dr. Rod wasn't all the way down in mexico - I might just run out
and kiss the man :)
Tina
Dr. Rod 7/1/04

Thank you! I've been questioning having surgery in Mexico and this confirms
what I have learned.
This covert attempt from Ortiz's patient coordinator is DISGUSTING but not
surprising given all the changes in Dr. Ortiz's practice lately. I wanted my
surgery with Dr. Ortiz b/c my friend had hers done and she spoke highly of him
(just like everyone else does). I NEVER received a response. I found out that
even though his price has increased a few hundred dollars, the quality has
significantly decreased. Something IS DEFINITELY going on with Ortiz'
practice.
BE AWARE --HE NO LONGER USES THE OASIS HOSPITAL (WHICH IS A
FULL SERVICE HOSPITAL WITH ICU) HE IS USING A FACILITY WHICH IS
MORE "OUT-PATIENT" BASED. THERE IS NO ICU, AND YOU HAVE TO
LEAVE THE VERY NEXT MORNING. IN ADDITION, HIS WEBSITE IS STILL
OFFERING OASIS HOSPITAL USE.
I FIND THESE PRACTICES VERY MISLEADING AND VERY DISINGENOUS.
SO, I AM NOT SURPRISED HIS COORDINATOR USES THESE TACTICS.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS: MORE MONEY IN HIS POCKET, LESS
QUALITY TO THE PATIENT. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO HIS BUSINESS
ADVISOR IS. IT'S GOING TO RUIN HIM.
Gina
looking to be banded

Those of you who are considering being banded in Mexico should be aware of a potentially dangerous practice. There are some un-reputable doctors in Mexico that "troll" these boards for patients and there are even some reputable doctors who have patient representatives who are operating without integrity and without their Doctor's knowledge in trolling for patients.

The best way to stop this practice is to not be drawn in by it. Good doctors stand on their reputation and although they may have patient reps in order to make sure that all their patients are taken care of, these reps don't "shark" for clients.

Below is an example of an email I sent today to a representative of a doctor who IS very reputable but has been probably misled by a lying patient rep. I would hate to see this man's reputation ruined by this person actions, however you do need to be aware that there are some doctors who's patient reps operate in this manner WITH the doctors knowledge & consent. IMHO it is lacking in integrity and just shameful.

A copy of the email follows (if you want a copy of the attachment you
will need to email me for it):
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:58:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Jamie E"
Subject: Dr. Kuri Membership Rejection
To: gailkitty2000@...
CC: zsflower@...
Dear gailkitty2000 a/k/a Sandy:
Your membership request for Dr. Kuri's board has been rejected.
This is based on the fact that you (1) lied in your application to be a member of our board by stating that "I am researching wls in mexico." (see attached saved file of your application) and (2) you ha